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Ex forged court order

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MrsBCup · 25/01/2020 20:50

I'm going to try and keep this short and sweet to save you a lot of reading time haha
My ex and I have had a number or issues including him keeping my DS at 6 weeks old for 3 hours longer than agreed contact without telling me where he was. Numerous malicious social services reports. Police allegations and a domestic abuse allegation against me trying to get a non-molestation. All of these were dropped by professionals.
After court and a number of mediation sessions we moved from supervised contact to unsupervised and he's been having contact every other week for 8 hours at a time.
However, yesterday I had a phone call from social services stating they had a court order that he had presented to them stating he had full custody and a prohibited steps against me. After a welfare check from the police, the RSPCA seized a dog who was being mistreated which broke my heart and they've said if they find out he's having contact they'll get involved so I have to seek legal advice. He also had tried to get a 2 bedroom flat with this false court order.
I'm terrified all over again, he's a master manipulator and narcissist and I'm so scared he's going to hurt me because of stopping contact. Housing won't move me as they don't count domestic abuse as a reason to move people despite a number of supporting professionals.
I know this is all a bit rambled but I'm just in shock. Can anyone advise me of things I should be doing to keep me and my son DS safe?

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carly2803 · 25/01/2020 20:59

im really confused - where does the dog come into it?
social services said about him seeing the baby?

you need a good solicitor

MrsBCup · 25/01/2020 21:01

Basically they just told me what was found when police did the welfare check and that if they found out he was having contact then they'd feel the need to get involved as they feel it's a safeguarding risk

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SD1978 · 25/01/2020 21:02

I'm going to assume your son is with you, since your biggest concern regarding the welfare check was the dogs condition. You need to organise court again, and have some sort of documentation from police/ social services stating they are telling you to breach the court orders, and gain an emergency hearing, otherwise he can take you to court for breaching them.

Nomorelaundry · 25/01/2020 21:04

Shit OP I am so sorry that all sounds so terrifying. I would write down as much as you can remember now. Keep it factual. The times you were called who you spoke to and what they said.

Have you spoken to women's aid?
Do you have funds to instruct a solicitor?

MrsBCup · 25/01/2020 21:06

Thanks everyone. Yes my son is with me, the reason I was called was because SS had this paperwork stating he had full custody but obviously didn't have our son so I've had to forward them the real court order.

I'm going to contact woman's aid on Monday for advice as SS advised me too but I don't know what to say. I have awful anxiety and this has made it even worst I'm terrified he's going to kill me

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RandomMess · 25/01/2020 21:09

Tell him to sort out supervised contact ASAP until SS determine he can have unsupervised again. Stay calm and remind him that you BOTH need to follow SS instructions to keep them happy.

I guess pay lip service to support him and make SS the bad guys in this...

IdontGetIt29 · 25/01/2020 21:21

Have you reported the fake court order to the police? If not you need to

If you have proof of the DV then speak to another council. Bizzare the council your at doesnt have DV as a reason to be moved!

I think you should speak to the police and tell them your afraid he might kill you

I fled DV 2 years ago & presented myself as homeless at the council in a different area ( they want proof of the dv and proof you dont have a tenancy, i had to end my tenancy before they would help me as i wasnt technically homeless )

The council i went to found me and the children a hostel that same day, we were there for a few weeks and then we are still in temporary housing 2.2 years later but irs better than fearing for my life.... after he was foubd guilty at court he posted on social media he wished hed killed me.... this was after court ordered him not to contaxt me or our 2 children

If your council arnt helping you then you need to speak to a new council

Changing areas would be better anyway as he has less chance of finding you to jarrass you further

IdontGetIt29 · 25/01/2020 21:23

I gave up my tenancy on advise of the council though and i was very reluctant to as i didnt want to be classed as intentionally homeless but DV changes that, of course your not going to want to stay where you dont feel safe

Clangus00 · 25/01/2020 21:24

No, she can’t arrange supervised contact! @RandomMess! SS said no contact or they’ll become involved.

MrsBCup · 25/01/2020 21:27

Thank you for all the advice.
I'm going to speak to my local council again as it's shocking they've said to me that domestic abuse doesn't count as a reason to be helped and they've told me if I give up my tenancy I'll be seen as intentionally homeless despite the domestic abuse. If that fails I'll have to speak to a different council.
I'll also give the police a ring tomorrow cx

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IdontGetIt29 · 25/01/2020 21:34

england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/homelessness/guide/homeless_get_help_from_the_council/how_to_ask_the_council_for_help

It is shocking and i believe they have advised you wrongly. But to be fair my own council were crap with helping me which is why i went to a different council

If its any help i went to Manchester Council and they were brilliant, especially as SS were on their case that it wasnt safe for me and the children where we were

It is draining and tiring but keep going ok, if a door shuts look for another one x

IdontGetIt29 · 25/01/2020 21:36

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Ex forged court order
IdontGetIt29 · 25/01/2020 21:44

I have just read that proof of DV isnt required either but if you have evidence its definetly worth bringing

Do you have any police proof of things he has done?

First time i tried to leave him i went to a local support centre for DV and because i had police proof I got legal aid and a non mol against him. Then i found out i was pregnant a few weeks later and messed up by trying to start again and be a family

I left him properly just over a year later

MrsBCup · 25/01/2020 21:45

Thank you so so much idontgetit I'll definitely get straight onto them on Monday xx

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RandomMess · 25/01/2020 21:48

I said HE needed to arrange it ie through legal channels in a contact centre.

Cantwaitforsummer2020 · 25/01/2020 22:02

CALL WOMEN’s AID and get put into a Refuge! You are considered top priority for housing whilst you’re in there and you’ll be safe! He cannot and will not know where you are. Their locations are kept secret and very very secure!

MrsBertBibby · 25/01/2020 22:26

You need urgently to apply back to the court to vary the order, the police cannot override a court order.

FourDecades · 25/01/2020 22:37

Have you got it in writing that SS have said no contact with him?

If not l advise you email the social worker and ask him/her to confirm what they verbally told you.

user765 · 10/02/2020 23:24

Forging a court document? Is that not a criminal offence?!

FourDecades · 17/02/2020 19:35

@MrsBCup - has anymore happened?

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