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Can a school give your email address to the police?

94 replies

howmanyusernames · 22/07/2019 17:34

Have been in discussions with the Business Manager of the local school about their staff parking outside our houses, which means residents with small children and the elderly can’t even park in the road.
I’ve never told anyone they can’t park there, but have asked staff to be considerate and to not park one car in a gap for two cars etc. Never been rude, but they have smirked, ignored me or rolled their eyes.

Discussions been going on for a few weeks, she said to let her know when staff parked there and I did. She’d apologise and tell them to move.
Got to the point where it clearly wasn’t working, and I said if I couldn’t park when I got home from nursery/work I would park across their car park entrance so they felt some frustrations like I did.
She said she’d call the police if that happens, I said fine.

Just had a knock on the door and it’s the police, said it’s about the ‘parking situation’ and I said I was feeding my son and couldn’t talk. She asked when I could, I said I didn’t know. She said ‘I have your email so will email you and get a time’. She must have been given this by the school.

Can they do that? With GDPR etc?

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Herocomplex · 22/07/2019 19:10

Oh my goodness, I didn’t mean in this case! I just don’t want people to think the police have carte blanche, because they don’t.

Issuing a threat to commit a crime is absolutely is absolutely reasonable grounds.

OrchidInTheSun · 22/07/2019 19:10

You have said that if they don't stop parking on your street, you will block the school car park. How is that 'not telling people they can't park there'?

There is nothing to stop people leaving their cars parked on your street for weeks on end if they are taxed and insured.

You're harassing them because you know where they work and they're teachers.

InTheHeatofLisbon · 22/07/2019 19:12

Herocomplex that makes sense, and I agree.

chergar · 22/07/2019 19:20

Police should provide a S29 form if they are requesting third party personal information, the only time you can give personal data without S29 is if there is an immediate concern.

It is annoying when you cannot get parked outside your house but if it is a public road and the cars are taxed and insured and not causing an obstruction (like blocking a driveway) then there isn't really much you can do about it.

Why are they parking on the street if they have a staff car park?

Try to keep good relations with the school as this issue won't go away overnight. Get the residents together and have a meeting with the school and explain your concerns, however you could have to rely on the goodwill of the school staff regards parking as it is not illegal.

Teacakeandalatte · 22/07/2019 19:22

You would be better off talking to the police and being very nice and polite. The people from the school are being annoying but its not illegal for them to park in your road as long as they don't block your access, whereas it would be an offense for you to park in front of their carpark blocking their access. Making threats could also be an offense. However I do believe if you are very polite and reasonable the police would be understanding and at least do nothing further maybe even make some helpful suggestions about improving the matter. If you are at all rude or obstructive they will be sure to take the schools side and view you as a difficult person and a troublemaker.

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 22/07/2019 19:33

The school probably forwarded on your email address to the police as they presumably forwarded on your emails to ghe school that I assume you sent notifying the business manager about the parking. The police officer has obviously mistakenly assumed that you will wish to discuss this rationally and would be happy to do so by email so she doesn't disturb you. But that's not correct? Even if it is a breach of GDPR (which I am not sure about - would need to check the legislation), it's not going to stop people parking lawfully on your street which they are entitled to do - it's a separate issue.

To be honest, you seem to have unreasonable expectations of how and where drivers can park on public streets. The best thing to do is to move if you can't rationalise this - ideally to a house with a large drive. That being the case, don't get into further dispute with the school as you would probably have to declare it as part of the selling process and would potentially devalue the house and/or stimy any sale

howmanyusernames · 22/07/2019 19:55

I was feeding my 1 year old his dinner. He was left alone in his high chair so I couldn’t speak to them right there. When she asked when I could speak to them I genuinely didn’t know. I was more worried about getting back in the house and making sure my son was ok as he’d been left unattended!
I work, I then look after him when I get home, I couldn’t give them a time or date when I’d be free to speak to them as I’d need to check my diary.

The Business Manager said she’d told them not to park there, not me! She told me to email her whenever someone parked there from the school, which I did! This was probably a couple of times a week?
I don’t sit watching for people, but if I’m giving my son breakfast and see someone park, I’d see if they walked into the school and let her know. She told me to do that!

I ask the Business Manager to ASK them to not park inconsiderately, explained why, she apologised and said she would do that and ask them to not park outside any houses! I didn’t ask her to do that. My frustration is that she said she’d spoken to them and they were ignoring her, so I would let her know.

The staff car park gets full apparently, but it’s too much for them to park a minute walk away. It was a suggestion I made as the Business Manager said the staff had come in crying as people were shouting at them (male residents in the road, not me!) when they parked there, and their cars had been keyed (also not me!).

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Haffdonga · 22/07/2019 19:59

I asked if they can give the police my personal data without my authorization?

Well, just think for a teeny tiny moment. How would it actually work if they couldn't give your information to the police?
Complainer: I want to report someone who has been making repeated complaints about my parking.
Policecop Person: Oh yes madam. What is their name?
Complainer: Well I can't actually let you know because GDPR.
Policecop: Right, can you tell us their contact details or address then please?
Complainer: No. That's confidential personal data. I need to ask their permission to share that.
Policecop: Confused

You do sound a bit over-invested in the whole parking situation. Will your dc be going to that school? Good luck.

Fightthebear · 22/07/2019 19:59

Jesus - it’s a public road.

NerrSnerr · 22/07/2019 20:02

The Business Manager was just doing her best to try and maintain relations with the community but she has no control over where staff members park.

They are allowed to park on your street. You are almost certainly contributing to staff members feeling harassed and anxious when all they want to do is park up and go to work.

georgialondon · 22/07/2019 20:05

Yes they can.

howmanyusernames · 22/07/2019 20:08

My DC is 1 and we will be moving away from here before he starts school.

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ColaFreezePop · 22/07/2019 20:12

OP if you have issues with people from a school, church or other organisation taking up parking on a public road where you live then once you have talked to the head teacher, vicar or other relevant leader if the issue continues you start talking then writing to your local councillors. If they are useless then you involve your local MP.

You do not state that you will harm any property or block entrances that are needed for emergencies, as some people will misinterpret it as a threat.

ChloeDecker · 22/07/2019 20:12

but it’s too much for them to park a minute walk away

And you, obviously.

ColaFreezePop · 22/07/2019 20:14

Oh and I'm one of the horrible people who have got people ticketed on my road for blocking entrances/drives on days when there are no parking restrictions but lines on the road showing they can't park.

howmanyusernames · 22/07/2019 20:15

Yes I am probably over invested. In all honesty it is probably the attitude of the people who park their cars that has wound me up. I know they can park there, I’ve never said they can’t, but when they smirk, roll their eyes or just ignore me it does wind me up. Along with them parking over two spaces when they could park closer and leave a space for someone else.

I’m the only one who has contacted the school to try and resolve the issue, other people who live here have shouted at the staff, and they’re not people I would want to annoy!

I also find it absurd that the police have time to come and visit me but do nothing when we call them because the people in the HMO are fighting in the street with baseball bats, or the guy across the road is hanging out of his window swearing at 1am....

Or when the police put a card through our door at 2am asking if we’d seen anything one night, waking our dogs and child, and when my husband tried to call them to say what he saw they told him to call back another day as Monday was their busiest day and they didn’t have time to speak to him!

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Saucery · 22/07/2019 20:17

Oh dear. If cars have been keyed then the person who has been making threats to the school is going to be of interest to the police, aren’t they?

Do you get home from work before they finish for the day at the school?

Saucery · 22/07/2019 20:20

X-posted with your last post. Sounds like the sort of area where you definitely do not want to park away from housing, even if it’s only 1 minute away. Do you not care about the safety of the staff at all? They are being shouted at, threatened, the safety of everyone in the school being put at risk, criminal damage to their cars......I really don’t think parking where you don’t want them to is an easy option.

howmanyusernames · 22/07/2019 20:21

ChloeDecker - when I have a tired 1 year old, his bag, my handbag and laptop bag, it is a real struggle to traipse down a road for a minutes walk. The school staff have themselves, no bags, just them, so yeah, I’d expect them to park a minutes walk away so they don’t annoy the residents.
And there’s the 86 year old who’s wife can’t park near their house, and the guy across the road who’s disabled son is difficult to walk up and down roads. And my neighbour who’s got a new born and buggy, and can’t even park in the road when she gets back from going out.

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Herocomplex · 22/07/2019 20:23

You need residents parking. Contact your council.

howmanyusernames · 22/07/2019 20:25

I haven’t threatened to key cars?! In fact my car was keyed too! Which is another reason I don’t want to park it in another road. My excess is £500, I don’t want to pay that and it get keyed again and it not even be in the road for me to even have a chance of seeing if someone did it.

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ChloeDecker · 22/07/2019 20:27

when I have a tired 1 year old, his bag, my handbag and laptop bag, it is a real struggle to traipse down a road for a minutes walk.

Try walking up numerous flights of narrow stairs as well as walking a lot more than a minutes walk away from a car, with a baby and toddler and shopping etc. You have it pretty easy OP.

Comefromaway · 22/07/2019 20:29

I was feeding my 1 year old his dinner. He was left alone in his high chair so I couldn’t speak to them right there. When she asked when I could speak to them I genuinely didn’t know. I was more worried about getting back in the house and making sure my son was ok as he’d been left unattended!

If the police knocked on my door and asked to speak to me about an allegation made against me or as they put it “the parking situation” I would check their ID and invite them in, not make spurious excuses. They could tLk toyou whilst you were finishing feeding your child.

MedalMedalMedal · 22/07/2019 20:29

Wow..no wonder they roll their eyes Grin

cherry2727 · 22/07/2019 20:33

I think I've heard it all!
Are you seriously suggesting alternative parking to drivers who have parked legally on a public road? Just because it's outside your house doesn't give you any more right to park there than the teachers who most probably reside miles away!

It's an annoying situation I understand. We used to reside in a house which had on street parking and it was an inconvenience having to walk a few meters with shopping or bags to the house. Inconvenience, yes but nothing I could do about it. This is why we vowed that when we did buy , we would definitely ensure that we have off street parking ( our own garage or drive ). Can't believe you even complained to the school about this !
My parents have a similar set up and one of their neighbours used to use wheelie bins to reserve the parking outside her outside everyday ! Can't believe people this ignorant actually exist !

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