C21 form from family court..

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Does anybody know or understand what a C21 blank order means in legal terms? My understanding of it is that a judge has decided an order should be made on the date of the first hearing and i have 7 days to aak the court to change their minds.

A C21 is a template for a court order. It's just meaningless as a form if it's blank.

@Collaborate i think this is the permission C2 form, but from what I've read and understood i think the court have given permission for there to be an order put in place even though there has been no hearing yet. I have 7 days to ask the court to reconsider their decision.

I couldn’t comment without seeing it.

A blank order doesn't mean anything. What has been added in to the template - what does it say?

It says it's a 'direction on issue and allocation' form. Made by a judge sat in private on the 27th of June. It says order at the top and the name of both of my children. At the bottom on the left hand side of the paper it refers to the C21 as a blank order so I'm guessing this judge has given his permission for there to be an order of some sorts.

I didn't think this was allowed seen as there has been no hearing and she has never seen my baby to get a contact order in place. I have wrote a brief letter to the judge asking the court to reconsider due to the facts. At this point if i am forced to give her any kind of contact to my children it will be supervised by myself and if that isn't possible then maybe the court can provide a social worker or police officer. There is no way she is going from 2 hours a month supervised to a full day or 2 half days with my 3 year old. I don't consent and neither does her father. Lots more time to poison my childs mind alone.

And there are no other words on it, and no other pieces of paper in the envelope? I would phone the court and ask if you have received everything you should have.

Have you been given a hearing date?

And in regards to me handing my baby over unsupervised there is absolutely no way. I will contact social services myself if needs be. I am my babies only care giver and i am meeting all of her needs physically and emotionally and will continue doing so. And this is me upstanding my parental rights to care and protect her.

It says DIRECTIONS ON ISSUE AND ALLOCATION MADE BY DISTRICT JUDGE X then it lists the GM as the paternal grandmother, myself as the mother and my ex as just a second respondent. It says the children live with me. The allocation to the legal adviser and lay justices then hearings and the date we will attend. Safeguarding and other info. It says this is an application for permission in respects to my baby. Participation directions. Other directions, compliance and info on solicitors and bundles etc

It sounds like she has been given permission to apply for an order, not the order itself. The paperwork refers to further court dates at which her application for contact will be considered. Not a lawyer though.

Collaborate and others

This appears to be the grandmother / DNA test poster

The court has merely listed it for a hearing. Don’t jump to conclusions. No order has been made. She hasn’t got permission.

The hearing will be exactly 2 years after the first hearing 🙈it says the paperwork from the first application/hearing will be released to the court too, so I'm hoping someone will see the pattern that's forming. She made an application to have a 'visit' away from my house, me and my ex agreed our daughter would go with him monthly. But as regards to full days and half days there is no way. I do not know her or her husband enough to be allowing them contact like that, and when someone is caring for your child there needs to be communication to which we do not have. My Daughter has 3 other sets of Grandparents, if they all had a day each when would my Daughter get family/ home life seen as she's at nursery 5 days a week. My ex partner said he doesn't agree to that and neither do i to either of her requests.

So, the court have emailed me today saying they have received my letter that i sent to the judge. They said if I'd like him to see it then i need to fill in a C2 form and pay a fee of £50. I have downloaded and printed the C2 form but it makes no sense as i will be the applicant on this occasion and the respondant?? Any ideas guys

Can you access any legal advice OP? Worth checking your home contents insurance policy as that sometimes includes free legal cover, or there's Rights of Women rightsofwomen.org.uk/get-advice/family-law/
Having someone who knows the law to help you navigate the paperwork seems to be what you need ideally.

Deff don't go further without seeking family advice and if needed representation. It's not straightforward in the family courts and as you feel strongly about contact this is your opportunity to get it sorted. If a contact order is made they are very rarely undone.

I think I've sorted it. I rang the court and the lady i spoke to said she really thinks the Judge needs to see my letter. I'm only filling in my part as the applicant and details because I'm only asking for the judge to see my letter. I'm presuming because there has been police involvement and i am emotionally drained this is considered abuse, and i feel that's what it is which is continued through the courts. I'm done guys. This has been a long 3 years plus