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Question re harassment laws

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AliceBluebonnet · 26/12/2018 12:00

I have a harassment warning against someone. They then were threatening me again, which I reported to the police. I'm being told by the PC that unless they are threatening me over the exact same matter/for the same reason, that it doesn't count as a violation of the harassment warning.

Is this correct?? Confused

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Finfintytint · 26/12/2018 12:11

Is there a significant timescale between the two incidents?

Gingerivy · 26/12/2018 12:18

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AliceBluebonnet · 26/12/2018 12:19

Well, hell, name change fail. Oh well. Anyway.... that's the situation.

The incidents have been going on for a year. I finally requested a harassment order in September from something that occurred at the end of August. Order was served mid-end October. More harassment (two separate incidents in one day) in mid-November. Police came out 4 days later to take report, said they'd be "inviting other party for an interview" then I heard nothing. Asked a couple times for updates, finally sent one via online system, PC rang back today with this info, which is completely different from what he told me just after the incident in November.

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AliceBluebonnet · 26/12/2018 12:26

sorry, harassment warning, not order. In case that makes a difference.

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Finfintytint · 26/12/2018 12:30

If there was more than one incident before any warning was given then they should not have delivered an harassment warning and investigated harassment fully. Don’t be fobbed off if this is causing you distress.

AliceBluebonnet · 26/12/2018 12:45

There were 8 incidents before the warning was given.

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AliceBluebonnet · 26/12/2018 12:48

8 incidents over approximately 8 months. At least, that police were called. There were multiple other incidents that were more minor but still harassment that I didn't report, but that they are aware of.

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AliceBluebonnet · 26/12/2018 12:52

I was also told that they could stand outside my door and "shout" their opinions (dreadful comments about me) and they're doing nothing wrong as they can shout their opinions to others and it's not considered harassment.

And that in order to arrest them, I'd need to have video proof that showed their face and at my door shouting at me, otherwise I can't prove anything. (even though I pointed out that the first time I rang 999 over it, the 999 operator could hear them shouting over the phone when I was talking to her).

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Finfintytint · 26/12/2018 14:35

Is this the same officer telling you this?

AliceBluebonnet · 26/12/2018 14:48

The same officer that came and spoke to me and took the report in November that also rang me today and told me that the harassment had to be for the same reason as when they were warned. He said if they were harassing me for any other reason, it didn't count.

I seem to get different officers regularly as we are quite near a border, so often get the wrong team sent out, and then eventually end up dealing with our correct neighbourhood team. But the info on the post at 1252 was our neighbourhood team, so different than the one from today. Nobody seems to take it seriously, which is frustrating, as it is having a massive impact on our lives (especially my children).

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Finfintytint · 26/12/2018 15:09

I'd write a letter to the Inspector and express the concerns you have.

AliceBluebonnet · 26/12/2018 15:11

Okay, thank you.

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Twisique · 27/12/2018 10:37

Write it all out, with as much detail as possible, doesn't matter if it's long, include everything.

AliceBluebonnet · 27/12/2018 14:12

twisique I will - I've documented pretty much most of it, including a timeline, so it's just a matter of putting it all together.

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bastardkitty · 28/12/2018 10:50

I believe that the National Stalking Helpline can also be very helpful in dealing with the police when they will do anything except do their job.

AliceBluebonnet · 28/12/2018 14:13

kitty Thanks. I will check into that. It's not a domestic type situation, but I will check with them in case they have some info that is helpful. Happy to take info from whatever source is available. Smile

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