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Paternity leave dispute

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T0292 · 07/09/2018 22:18

Hi, new to this but needed some advice. Bit of background.. me and my ex split when I was around 6 weeks pregnant as he told me to consider 'getting rid' of the baby. This wasn't what I wanted and we split up, a few weeks later he wanted to come back but due to a number of reasons (related to the how relationship was) I have said i dont want to take him back, initially he said he would do anything to get me back and prove he wanted to be there for his child.. this didnt last long and quickly went sour as he wanted things his way and I said no I didn't want to be in a relationship with him but I would never stop him being a father.. fast forward to being 34 weeks pregnant and we have barely any contact. I have been in and out of hospitals with complications but he hasnt been around, he's been to the scans (12wk, 20wk, 34wk) but nothing more. We generally don't speak unless its solely about the baby which isn't very often.
So this is where I need advice..
Hes messaged me about his Pat leave wanting to stay over at my house for the 2 weeks he is off as his mum lives an hours drive away and around 2 hours on public transport.. I have said no there's no reason for him to stay overnight but he can come as early and stay as late as public transport allows him to (he said he was learning to drive for babys arrival but never did) he thinks this is unreasonable and has resorted to calling me vile names most of the day because I've moved to a 'rubbish place' and transport would mean he wouldn't get a lot of time (which isnt the case, it would take him 2 hours to get here and then 2 back.. which would have been the same if i stayed where we both lived together or he can have a lift from his parents or i suggested a nearby hotel). He has been telling me that he should be there the whole time for his pat leave including overnight and he will be getting legal advice. My question is.. am I being unreasonable by saying that i dont want him to stay overnight and can i legally say this? I don't feel comfortable having him around through the night and dont feel that its necessary hes there overnight when I have said he can come all day and night if he wishes I just don't want him to stay over as he's emotionally abusive towards me trying to manipulate me. He has never lived in this house and it's not normal for me to have him around, after everything that he's put me through I would prefer for him to have as little time as possible but I am fully aware he is her father and he has every right to be a part of her life. He hasnt been involved since he left at 6 weeks except from coming to the scan appointments, I believe I have been more than reasonable by saying he's welcome to come as much as he likes on his pat leave but I don't want him to stay overnight. I just want to know if legally I have to allow him to stay for his pat leave and if he was to take me to court I would look like I was being unreasonable?

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PatriciaHolm · 07/09/2018 22:22

Of course you can. No court in the land is going to say you have to have him stay.

curlykaren · 07/09/2018 22:23

No. There isn't a legal leg for him to stand on. You've been more then reasonable with the time you have offered. Please don't dwell on this, the first legal professional he talks to will laugh him out of the room. Don't worry about this!!! X

eurochick · 07/09/2018 22:24

He's being an idiot. Don't worry about this.

T0292 · 07/09/2018 22:37

Thank you for your replies! I was unsure if he could use that against me if he was to take me to court at any point. It's all very much his way or I get abuse hurled at me, I am not an unreasonable person and making ridiculous demands for the sake of it. I do have concerns about his level of care for her (due to the way he was with his older child when he was young, hes not my child but wad together from hin being 6mths old hes now 3 and I have proof of his level of care to that child) but I have said that things may have changed since then and we can work up his access once hes back at work where he comes here for a couple of hours and then its built up over time to where he can take her out and have his set days with her once I am comfortable with him being able to take care of her on his own. But apparently this is also unreasonable so hes getting advice on this too. I just want what is best for my daughter but don't want to be walked all over either!

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MidniteScribbler · 08/09/2018 03:14

Do not let him in your house! There is no need for him to be there all day, sitting on your couch, watching your tv and eating your food. This is him trying to control you. Start contact at a low level and build it up, because he will be a nightmare, and it's easier to increase contact than it is to decrease it. Tell him (don't offer, tell) to meet at a neutral coffee shop twice per week for one hour only for the first six months. Be very firm, and never let him through the door of your house. No court is ever going to force you to spend many hours per day with him in your home.

When he threatens to take you to court, let him, and then go. Agree to the minimum contact ordered, and stick to it to the letter. If you give him an inch, he'll take a mile, and if you let him do this, he'll tell the court he has had as much contact as he wants and they'll give him more than you are comfortable with. You have 18 years of having to deal with this man ahead of you, so set your boundaries now. No phone calls, everything done via email. Pick up and drop off from a neutral location, not your home.

inquiquotiokixul · 08/09/2018 03:28

What @MidniteScribbler said. Your baby has a eight to grow up with a relationship with their father. That does not give your ex any rights at all to access your home. Meet him half way between your homes twice a week. Do not let him into your home at any point.

inquiquotiokixul · 08/09/2018 03:29

eight was supposed to be right

HoppingPavlova · 08/09/2018 05:12

Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

He can blather on and take legal action all he likes. Noone is going to represent him in regards to being allowed into your house let alone staying over as they will be on the ground laughing. He has no rights in this regard. He does have a right to a relationship with his child but he has no right to enter your house and no court will ever find you unreasonable in that regard. Don’t let him in, he can meet you in a park for an hour or so when convenient.

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