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Does a fixed penalty fine count as a conviction?

8 replies

Neolara · 04/06/2018 11:40

I've been offered a job by the civil service and I've been asked to fill in a "Character and criminal record declaration" form.

It asks "Have you ever been convicted or found guilty by a court of any offence in any country (excluding parking but including all motoring offences even where a spot fine has been administered by the police?)"

About a year ago I turned right into a road. Unfortunately, I hadn't seen the "no right turn" sign and I did it in front of a policeman! I think I got fined £25 or something in a fixed penalty.

Do you think I need to declare this as a conviction? I just paid the fine. It didn't go to court.

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scurryfunge · 04/06/2018 11:42

Yes, declare it. It was a motoring offence.

NotDavidTennant · 04/06/2018 11:43

including all motoring offences even where a spot fine has been administered by the police

Seems pretty clear to me.

ConstanceVigilance · 04/06/2018 11:45

I would declare it, especially if the guidance says you must declare a spot fine. A fixed penalty notice is a spot fine.

It doesn't meet you won't get the job, in fact I think it's 99% likely that it will have no impact at all. But what would have a bigger impact is not declaring it, and then they find out about it and think it's something that should have been declared.. because then you look dishonest.

Tartyflette · 04/06/2018 11:46

I think it's clear from the quote that you do need to declare it.
I shouldn't think it will matter in the slightest -- unless you don't declare it and it comes to light, in which case it might well do so.

Tartyflette · 04/06/2018 11:46

Cross-post queen strikes again!

BeeFarseer · 04/06/2018 11:48

It's a non-custodial sentence, so yes, it needs to be declared but will very very very likely be disregarded.

SheSparkles · 04/06/2018 11:51

You don’t get a fine if you’re not convicted of something, so yes it’s a conviction. The company are unlikely to bat an eyelid, they’re covering themselves so no one is in any doubt about what to declare

ApolloandDaphne · 04/06/2018 11:56

Yes you need to declare it. It will probably be fine but to conceal it would be worse.

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