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CAO - requests made to judge

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FV45 · 24/01/2017 09:54

  • CAO hearing next week.
  • Cafcass called yesterday.
  • They are aware of failed non-molestation order I tried to get ie it is in their report. I never want my ex to know about this.
  • They will not send this report to all parties prior to the hearin (due to above).
  • Cafcass advised me to talk to court usher on the day, to ask that judge NOT read the part about the non-mol.

Q. Will the judge respect this?

I am sick with anxiety. I had NO idea that my ex would ever find out about me attempting to protect myself against my ex's EA (and failing).

I am self-representing.

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RedHelenB · 06/02/2017 08:35

He is an ex, The best thing you can do now is to stop caring what he thinks about you. It will take time but dont give him head space.

EnormousTiger · 06/02/2017 08:43

FV courts other than family courts are open to all. Anyone can go and sit in. It's why we aren't like China with secret justice. I suppose with family courts there may be family secrets in there they don't want journalists to report in the interests of the children but I didn't realise it would be hard to take a friend in even if not a Mackenzie's friend. I would favour more open justice in family law. I think children are damaged more by all the secrecy than the other way round.

FV45 · 06/02/2017 11:22

baby Yes you did. My main beef is that I don't understand why I was told different things.

You (a barrister I presume) tell me my friend should bring a cv.
My own sol says she didn't need to bring anything.
The court orderly (?) I called the day before the case said I didn't.
The magistrate asked for one.

Are there no rules and regulations? It just seems to make an already stressful situation even more so.

The applicant wants to bring a friend for support. That's no an unusual situation, is it?

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FV45 · 06/02/2017 11:28

Red Easy enough to say, but I now have to live with him having information about me that I didn't want him to have.

Yes, I "won" in Court, but he has the knowledge that I tried to get a non-mol order and wasn't granted one. Yes, yes, I know all the ins and outs and with-notice etc, but HE doesn't know that ( I doubt he will do any research into how it works).

One thing though, with the Court Order in place and with him out of the home I will feel much more confident in applying for a with-notice non-mol. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. I am logging everything he's doing already.

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babybarrister · 06/02/2017 13:29

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FV45 · 06/02/2017 13:44

I am not questioning you baby. It's not ME that needs to read the guidance, I'm wondering why my sol and the court told me otherwise.
What is the point of me calling the Court if they don't give me the right information?

On this thread I was told different things. My point is, I am a lay person.
I sought advice from professionals and was given different information.

I'll just add this to the book I plan to write.

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EnormousTiger · 06/02/2017 15:14

I bet it depends if the person comes as a MF or just a visitor who has permission to sit in the court room though, doesn't it? If the rules are the only people allowed in family court (unlike other courts) are the person litigating which sounds ridiculous to me and unfair but might be the rule then yes those MF rules will set it out. If instead the famiyl courts sometimes let someone bring their new husband with them or an adult child just to sit in for moral support then those rules wouldn't be relevant.

FV45 · 06/02/2017 18:22

My friend was with me as a MF, I made that quite clear.

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babybarrister · 06/02/2017 20:41

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Familylawsolicitor · 06/02/2017 21:47

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FV45 · 07/02/2017 09:19

No, it was Ipswich.

Seems a bit odd to not be able to rely on court staff. Surely they should be trained to not give advice, or better just tell callers to email.
The court papers didn't have an email address and it wasn't online (not that I could find anyway), so the court staff did give me the right email address (where I sent my Position Statement).

Just seems that the process could be made more straight forward and more clear for people.

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EnormousTiger · 07/02/2017 09:43

I know. It's appalling. I am a lawyer and often I cannot even find out answers to very basic questions from court websites, staff and the like.

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