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New tenant - property 'doesn't exist' HELP

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RnB · 01/07/2014 20:13

I wonder if anyone with legal knowledge can help? My brother moved into a newly converted property on 02/06/2014 in Hackney. The property was formerly part of the offices of his current landlord who is a builder and undertook the conversion.

He agreed a rent of £450 per week through the lettings agency. He paid the agent a fee of £450 (1 weeks rent), 6 weeks deposit (£2700) and a months rent in advance (£1950) and signed a 24 month contract with an 18 month break clause (which came as a surprise as he assumed a 12 month break clause was standard) for the property: Flat 1, 50 Street, London.

Having signed the contract he then contacted bank and credit card companies to change address. He had arranged for BT to install the telephone and Internet on the following day but they contacted him to tell him there was an existing line that could not be taken over. He also contacted Hackney council to register for council tax, however 2 weeks ago they telephoned his flat mate to tell him the letter they sent has been returned by the current occupier. It transpires that there is already a flat 1, 50 Street on the building and they do not live there.

He then contacted the estate agent to inform him of the situation and ask him to provide the correct address of the property and to confirm that the property was registered as a residential property with all relevant bodies. The reply was that the address was flat 1, 48-50 Street, London and that the landlord would contact him in relation to providing proof of registration.

He has not yet received any communication from the landlord.

Then last week the council telephoned his flat mate and told him that Flat 1, 48-50 * St does not exist and that they would have to send out an inspection team to register the property. This could take anything from 4 weeks to 3 months. Obviously this is unacceptable as they cannot get a phone line installed until they have an address to install it. All bank statements have gone to the other 'flat 1' jeopardising his privacy.

On top of all this it took over 2 weeks for the television aerial to be fitted, they still do not have a working intercom, the stairwell and common area is a building site with sections of the ceiling missing and lights hanging out, it takes 8 minutes to fill the kichen sink, the tumbler on the front door is loose, and there is a buzzing sound coming from the isolator switch by the bathroom. The landlord is aware of all these issues and so far the only change is that someone has thrown a cup of tea up the wall by the main entrance door.

The rent is due tomorrow 02/07/2014 but obviously they are reluctant to pay I'm assuming that the contract they signed is null and void as it is for a property that they dont live in and the tandlord doesnt own. They have not yet been asked to sign a new contact and would be unwilling to at the current price and break clause length.

I would really appreciate your advice on the best course of action to take.

Thanks for reading.

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YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 01/07/2014 20:36

My friend had this. The contract he has is in fact null and void and the council should of told him this. my friend was told that she could in fact move out and if it went to court they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

I would not pay rent until a new contract and repairs had been done. I would however reiterate that I have the money ready to pay as soon as the above had been done

RnB · 01/07/2014 20:38

Thanks YouSay, that's really helpful.

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YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 01/07/2014 20:39

im not legal btw

Lorelei353 · 01/07/2014 20:56

Councils can be surprisingly slow to sort out new addresses. I moved into a building that was already flats but had been completely refurbed and sold as new. The flats were all renumbered and I think new postcodes issued. It took 6-8 months to get council tax sorted as they could t send me a bill for this flat as it didn't exist, even though it did legally and in every way it needed to, and they couldn't process it to the old flat numbers the postcode had changed. Got a massive back-dated bill eventually (fortunately I'd the good sense to out money aside monthly).

YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 01/07/2014 21:12

All I know in my friends instance is the flat she lives in has been rented out for years and has never been the address that's been on the contracts,

RnB · 02/07/2014 10:05

Thanks all.
Bumping

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JaneParker · 02/07/2014 10:19

In general if you want someone to do something it is best to withhold payment. I do know BT can take months to put phone lines/wifi in new properties and that is not the landlord's fault.

If he wants to live there then he could go ahead. I don't think the common parts still being a bit of a mess is necessarily a breach of the tenancy agreement although not ideal.

Could they not call it 1A, make sure the post man knows - tell local post office, and put as much pressure on the council and BT as possible to hurry the utilities along?

YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 02/07/2014 11:43

Jane they can't call the property anything Until the council come round and make it official, he could tell the post office but they still wouldn't be able to find the address at the sorting office ect it wouldn't work

He could call it Buckingham palace 2 but it still wouldn't be a registered property and you can't have a tenancy agreement for a unregistered property. He should of got the property registered before letting it out to people

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