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Finding of fact hearing

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FrogStarandRoses · 23/01/2014 15:30

What type of allegations can lead to a Finding of Fact hearing being directed?

My DHs exW (of five years) has applied to discharge a current contact order for DHs DS and replace with a no-contact order. In the first hearing, she told the magistrates that DH was emotionally abusing her and the DCs and had done since they split. At that point, CAFCASS hadn't done a Schedule 2 letter (the paperwork was mucked up because the application was submitted on the wrong form) so DH is due back in court in a few weeks after that has been done. He and his exW spoke to CAFCASS separately before the last hearing and he is expecting to speak to them again by phone before the next.

Assuming that DHs ex continues to allege EA, will CAFCASS suggest/recommend a FFH to the Magistrates? DH said the magistrates were a bit clueless and were corrected by the Clerk and CAFCASS about procedural things several times. I doubt they'd think of an FFH themselves by the sounds of things.

I've read that if the Court does not direct a FFH in cases where DV/abuse is alleged, the reasons why not have to be recorded on the order. Would DHs exWs statement in court be considered an allegation? On the application she referred to manipulation/blackmail rather than abuse.

DH has given up hoping that he'll see his DS again and just wants to try and ensure that the right emotional support is put in place for him - he's hoping that CAFCASS will eventually be directed to do a Section 7 report so that they see things like the schools safeguarding file on DS and speak to DS other carers, not just Mum and Dad.

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iheartdusty · 23/01/2014 16:21

how old is DS?

MooseBeTimeForSnow · 23/01/2014 16:25

I think there have to be specific allegations made in order for the Court to decide whether or not those allegations are found to be true.

Does the son want contact?

FrogStarandRoses · 23/01/2014 16:43

DS is 10 - whether he wants contact with DH or not varies; there hasn't been any face to face contact since before Xmas because his mum is waiting for him to ask to see his Dad and he hasn't.

There had been regular contact (1 week in 3) but that broke down last Oct after DH and his ex had a dispute regarding older DD. when DH tried to sort things out and reinitiate contact, his exW applied to court. Since then, DHs DS has made some non-specific allegations (he's scared of his Dad, he doesn't like his Dad talking to him, he and I don't get on) sometimes he refuses to even speak to DH on the phone, but other times he said he was happy to come when his mum told him too.

He knows his mum doesn't want him to see DH, she's told him in front of DH and DHs DS has seen all the court paperwork that his Mum has shown him. They are still very high conflict - she throws a lot of accusations at DH about leaving her etc (he divorced her for adultery) and up til now he's been stubbornly determined to have regular contact with his DCs - most people assume the divorce is very recent but it's been 5 years!

If there has to be specific instances of DA for an FFH, will the court take into account DHs exW statement that he's EA when deciding about the order?

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MooseBeTimeForSnow · 23/01/2014 20:05

I think she'd even have to make specific allegations about EA in order for it to be proved.

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