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shared garden, leasehold flat - long!

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wedwose · 19/01/2014 10:11

We own a flat in a converted property in which their are 4 flats. We used to live there but for various reasons have had to move elsewhere and couldn't sell the flat so we rent it out instead. The flat is the bane of our lives as, although we get on well with two of the other flat owners, the 4th owner is aggressive, rude, unpleasant and uncooperative and seems to really resent that we don't live there now. At every opportunity he makes comments about us seeing it only as a profit making, investment opportunity even though we have bent over backwards to treat it like we were still living there ourselves. As a result, relations are very strained and we try to have as little to do with him as possible and when we do we feel we have to be absolutely sure of what we are saying to avoid things rapidly escalating.

The freehold is owned by a company in which each of the flat owners is a shareholder and a director. Each flat is also subject to a lease so the flat owners all own an equal share of the freeholding company and are also leaseholders.

Three of the flat owners including us now live some distance from the property. We all previously lived there ourselves. The 4th who owns the garden flat lives there.

The garden flat also has a lease of a strip of land about 6 feet wide at the rear of the property, basically the patio just outside their patio doors.

Each of our main leases state we have "the right in common with all other persons entitled to the like right to use the area of the Lessor's Property which is laid out as gardens" and so I think we all just have an equal right ie the garden is shared with no divisions. The area of the shared garden is set out in the title deeds as is the area of land leased to the garden flat. The plans are to scale.

The owners of the garden flat have now in December built a large area of decking covering both their 6 feet strip and a further 6 feet into the shared garden. Before commencing the work they refused to let any of the other flat owners know what exactly they were planning but having seen the results this week the other 3 flat owners feel they have encroached on the shared garden. We have not yet specifically written to them about this as we wanted to get a surveyor to check the plans and take accurate measurements before we raise the issue (just to check we have miscalculated and because he is so incredibly prickly). The owners of the garden flat yesterday told us they have family issues and asked everyone to refrain from contacting them which we think may just be a delaying tactic because one of the other owners suggested we have a shareholders meeting this month, although he didn't specifically say we all want to discuss the garden.

My questions are what if any are our remedies if they have encroached on the shared garden? Is an extra 6 feet in these circumstances sufficient for us to have a case? Will we be prejudiced if, now that we have all seen the finished decking, we do not raise an objection now? Say we do as they ask and refrain from contacting them for a month or two (the family problem they are claiming could go on for some time), could they later say "well, all that time you were aware of what we had done and didn't say anything so we assumed you were all happy?" Does each of the individual leaseholders have a right to take action irrespective of what the others or the freeholding company decides?

Sorry about the length of this and all the questions but I've been worrying about this since yesterday morning and just need some general tactical advice at this stage to work out whether it is worth going to a solicitor.

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SuzanneUK · 19/01/2014 10:55

This is difficult as I haven't seen the agreements involved but generally speaking:

If the garden-flat dweller has agreed to allow you access to the shared garden, he must allow you such access.

If his decking encroaches the shared garden area and he seeks to keep you off the area of garden covered by the decking, he's clearly in breach of the lease's terms.

If, however, he welcomes you to use that area of decking, he might not be in breach (depending upon what else the lease says or doesn't say re building upon or otherwise covering all or part the garden area).

In any event, if you're going to complain you should do so as soon as possible as the longer you leave it after finding out about the encroachment, the more likely he is to claim that you acquiesced in the breach of contract (i.e. you became aware of it yet raised no objection), and the more likely a court is to accept his argument and to throw out your claim that the decking be removed.

Before approaching a solicitor, you should write to the garden-flat dweller and demand that he remove the excess decking.

Keep copies of all correspondence (obviously).

Courts are busy places and a judge will view you and your claim more favourably if it's clear to him that you did everything possible to solve the problem without resorting to law.

Good luck.

wedwose · 19/01/2014 12:38

that's really helpful. I suspected we should write to him to register our concerns at least, to say we aren't sure if he is breach but we feel he may be and we want to let him know we will be looking into this, that we don't agree with what he has done if it is in breach and we should not be taken to have agreed just because we haven't taken formal action yet - but when we got his message yesterday about their family issues it took the wind out of my sails as I didn't want to look like a hard hearted wotsit, which would also play into his narrative of us being money grabbing uncaring investment property tycoons. I think he knows one or other of us is on the cusp of complaining and having "family issues" is a convenient way of delaying things....

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limitedperiodonly · 19/01/2014 19:22

What is your access to this land? Have you always used it, or could have used it - for instance through a gate or steps? Or is the only access through his property, like walking though his flat into a walled garden?

Also, how long has he lived there and for how long has he been excluding you or any of the leaseholders from this land?

pancakesfortea · 19/01/2014 19:31

You can get free initial advice from the Leasehold Advisory Service - a free government funded service. They can help you to understand the legal position and what your options might be before you start paying for lawyers.

limitedperiodonly · 19/01/2014 19:38

YY to what pancakes said. They were really good for me and it's better than asking on here link

wedwose · 21/01/2014 06:25

we all have access to the back garden down a side alley. he has lived there for at least 10 years. the decking was only built end December/start of January this year. thanks for the suggestion about the leasehold advisory service, I will contact them

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