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Enforcing Child Maintenance/ CSA

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mumtobealloveragain · 16/12/2013 10:41

I've been helping my brother's partner in her attempt to get some child maintenance from her ex.

After quite a long process she's managed to obtain a deductions of earnings order and is now receiving regular payments direct from her ex partners salary.

However, we have a question about some money he owes her still and how to obtain it and hoping someone here might know?

When they first separated (3yrs ago) she had no contact with her ex and he paid no maintenance. Then about a year ago he was in contact again & was having some contact with their child and she contacted the CSA to arrange maintenance- her ex seemed to be reasonable at the time so she told the CSA that she was happy with him paying her Maintenance Direct (MD). They contacted him, took his payslips and calculated how much he should pay and sent this calculation decision to them both and he should have paid her direct each month. Unfortunately, six months later he hadn't paid a penny and she didn't realise she could do anything about it at the time so didn't do anything and struggled on without his financial support.

Anyway. Since then I've helped her get back in touch with the CSA & request they collect the money for her, the ex refused to pay & during the process of obtaining the deduction of earnings order her ex appealed the amount, he lied and said he had their child 3 nights a week when he didn't! His appeal went to tribunal & (as expected) he had no proof & she could easily disprove his claim so the tribunal awarded in her favour and the amount of maintenance he had to pay was kept the same.

This is where it gets complicated. The Judge at the tribunal sent out a decision letter. The tribunal considered the entire period of the CSA claim, including the 6 months where he should have been paying her maintenance direct and the period afterwards where CSA were collecting & enforcing payments. The period afterwards (since they were asked to collect) has been dealt with by CSA as result of the tribunal decision and his arrears been added to his payments taken direct from his salary. But what about the 6 month period when he should have been paying maintenance direct? The tribunal liability order states the dates quite clearly and that he is liable and the amount due. CSA say they can't get involved as it was a maintenance direct period & therefore out of their jurisdiction even though he never paid. But a CSA advisor has told her that the tribunal Judge's liability decision notice is enough to enforce it, but that they can't get involved or advise her who it is that can help her.

So (sorry, long winded) does anyone know how she can get him to pay the money he is liable for? Would she be able to take it to the small claims Court due to her having the Judges decision notice stating clearly he is liable to pay or is there another way to enforce other than CSA? It's 6 months worth of maintenance and is. a large amount as he's on a good salary and it's money her child is owed and could be put to good use.

Thank you in advance if you can help...

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ShesYourDaughter · 16/12/2013 14:43

Small claims court is a possibility if its under the limit. Ten thousand I think currently.

But....

Even if the court makes an award if he doesn't pay up voluntarily you'll then need to go for further legal action and still he can't be compelled to pay. Only the threat of a a county court judgement if it affects him professionally or his credit rating significantly could stop the endless litigation.

It's one of those things with civil law, it takes a long time to get to a conclusion and a lot of money.

Your other options

Write it off, he's paying regular maintenance now. Be happy.
Suggest to him that he pays it off over say 12 months.

All depends how much it is and how much you dare stir things up seeing as you seem to be on an even keel, financially and access wise with him.

In our experience we failed to get a penny from the kids dad, he was adamant that he wasnt paying anything, even to the point of spending money on the kids needlessly to prove that he was already 'paying for them' as he put it.

There are any tactics a reluctant ex can use. Be warned the CSA will only act in favour of the responsible parent, they usually use the child benefit book holder but it only takes one phone call to claim that and then you get into payments being suspended and a dispute process.

Is it worth it?

ShesYourDaughter · 16/12/2013 14:47

I should add...

If its money that could be put to good use for the child you maybe shouldn't see it as a windfall. If you ran up debts providing for the child which this backlog would clear, then perhaps worth going for but to look on it as a potential windfall is maybe not the angle to look at it.

If you got it, spent it. Where's the next one going to come from?

You want the relationship with the father to be on as even keel as possible. Civil and without recrimination.

I'd also say this is a matter for your partner and her ex to sort out, don't be seen to be getting involved.

mumtobealloveragain · 16/12/2013 17:28

Thank you. It's my brothers girlfriend and her and and I'm only helping "in the background" not interfering. He's hardly seeing their child now and he's a complete arse towards the child and her so I think she's more than happy to make an application and do what she can to ensure he at least pays what he owes and supports the child financially as it appears he won't emotionally!

A small claims Court appears to be the way forward. It's under ten thousand pounds, between 2-2.5k we estimate, so not small amounts considering she is on a low wage it will make a massive difference to her x

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mumtobealloveragain · 18/12/2013 11:18

Has anyone here got any experience of obtaining child maintenance via the small claims court? Was a Judge's liability order enough?

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prh47bridge · 18/12/2013 13:41

Contrary to what is said upthread a judgement in the small claims court IS a CCJ. If the debt remains unpaid the next step is enforcement action.

mumtobealloveragain · 18/12/2013 16:55

Thank you that's handy to know.

From what I've also read up online a it small claims courts is that it's best to take some proof that you've tried to resolve with the other party. So I have advised her to send a formal letter to her ex asking for the money he owes her and suggesting he could pay it off over the next 6 months in instalments and to send this recorded delivery. Then at least she has proof that she tried to sort it outside court first. He will ignore it though of course but just a hoop to jump. Hopefully that will be enough.

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prh47bridge · 18/12/2013 17:28

She should also set a deadline for him to resolve the issue and say that she will take court action if he does not do so.

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