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What can I expect the police to do?

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Karmaseas · 23/07/2013 21:36

I've name changed as quite sensitive.

I'll try and give as much info as possible without outing anybody. The gist of this is my dd (11) has been chatting on google plus to a distant family relative whom she only met very recently. He is in his early 20's & she asked me if she could accept his request to email. I had no reason to say no as when I met him I had nothing to suggest that there would be anything other than chit chat about our recent get together. However, his emails started getting very indecent & sexual within 20 minutes. I intercepted it immediately and it has stopped. In the context of the email it suggested that he had touched her (not intimately - but inappropriately) when he visited us.
I have reported this to the police. They have asked me what I want them to do? I am disgusted that this piece of filth felt it was ok to touch my dd when we (her family) where all within the same vicinity. I feel horrified that he may have done it before or may well do it again to another child. I want his warned and watched like a hawk - maybe added to some list so that he can never ever work near or around children. What can I expect from the police - what should I have asked them to do?

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Roshbegosh · 23/07/2013 21:50

I agree they should do something as it is grooming behaviour. I assume they saw the emails. I hope they don't have to wait for an actual physical assault to take place before doing anything, though the inappropriate touching is an assault anyway.

Karmaseas · 23/07/2013 21:55

Yes, they've seen all the emails as proof. I feel very helpless sitting here waiting, although I have range for updates - they said they will ring me when there is an update.

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Karmaseas · 23/07/2013 21:55

Rang - not range

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Roshbegosh · 23/07/2013 21:58

Well I hope they do, if they leave this reason to escalate their behaviour it would be terrible. Surely someone will speak to him.

betterthanever · 23/07/2013 23:02

How is your DD about this? Shocking - you have acted very swiftly and I hope the police do the same. You must feel sick. What he has done is criminal. I hope one of the criminal prosecution lawyers can offer you good advice. I would speak with the NSPCC they are very helpful. I would imagine that there is a process the police must go through to ensure they don't do anything wrong that could let him off the hook as so often happens which is whay it may take them some time to come back to you. He may already be `known' to them but they would not be able to tell you at the moment. These things tend to move slowly but you have done the important thing and reported it immediatley.

Karmaseas · 24/07/2013 04:52

My dd is ok, we've spoken to her lots, but tried not to dramatise it too much in front of her. She knows that what he said and did is very wrong & she has asked if he'll go to prison :-(
We are very careful, we think, about her internet usage and monitor it all the time which is why it was identified so quickly really. This has made us more alert now though and we've had to explain again to Dd that her body is private and cannot be touched by anyone else.
I've spoken to the nspcc prior to the police & they were very supportive.
Will they prosecute on this alone do you think or will it need him to have done it to someone else? Hopefully the police will visit him today and bring him in for questioning over it.

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Tiredtrout · 24/07/2013 05:10

Has your dd been spoken to yet by officers? If not they will need to speak to her to assess which is the best way for her to give evidence, hopefully she will be video interviewed which will have to happen at a police station. The computer that they have been communicating on will need to be seized so the conversation can be downloaded and kept in evidence and then he would be most likely arrested and all equipment he could access the Internet with would be seized. Only then will he be spoken to. It can take ages after the preliminary bit for anything more to happen. Any decision about what happens with your dd's case would be made by the cps or a senior officer.

They will not be able to do anything like just talking to him though, the very least that will happen is intelligence reports going into the system. For it to all happen the way it should as I've outlined your dd has to be supportive of a prosecution as do you.

I hope you're both ok

Tiredtrout · 24/07/2013 05:11

And to answer your question they can on prosecute on just this

Karmaseas · 24/07/2013 06:21

Thanks for that information Tiredtrout. I'll speak to the allocated officer today and tell them we would like to prosecute - this man cannot be allowed near any more children - we have to protect our child and any others he may have approached. This sickens me to the core - what a terible society we now live in :-(

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Tiredtrout · 24/07/2013 08:14

No problem karma, hope you and your dd are ok

ratbagcatbag · 24/07/2013 08:20

What I do want to say is well done. This happened in my family, my uncle touched his sister inappropriately, she told her mum, who told her ge was just playing and if she told anyone they'd say it was her fault.

He went on to abuse me from the age of three to thirteen as my mum (another sister) had no idea. Even when I finally told mum and dad, my aunt and grandma laid it on so thick it was never reported to the police. I felt like you and in my early twenties went to the police myself, uncle was pretty smug as historic cases are very hard to prosecute. We nailed the bastard and he's still on the sex offenders register now.

ratbagcatbag · 24/07/2013 08:22

If my grandma had half the compassion you have for your dd and others, I'd have been spared my whole childhood being tainted by it.

Hope your dd is ok.

Karmaseas · 24/07/2013 08:54

ratbagcatbag - I'm so sorry you weren't protected and were subject to this vile man.

I don't feel so brave to be honest, just incredibly angry about this man and so sad for my DD. His parents are supporting me too & advised that I must do what is necessary to stop this. This isn't just going to impact our little family unit - it has far reaching consequences. I can't even face telling my own Dad just yet - I feel quite sick about it still - but I will tell him soon - he needs to know too. He'll be so upset for my DD. oh god - what a mess :-(
My DD seems to be ok, I don't talk about what our actions are in front of her - I don't want to scare her anymore. She is getting on with her summer hols and having friends over etc & seems happy - asking for lots of hugs - but she is a cuddly type of girl anyway :-) My baby xx

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ratbagcatbag · 24/07/2013 09:32

Practically, ask specifically for a female officer to deal with her,ask if they have a solo worker (sex offences liaison officer) only some forces do, but mine was amazing. Ask if video evidence is needed is there anywhere else it can be done than in a station, again my force works with rape crisis centres, so interviewing is done there, which is more relaxed, sofas, carpets etc. always worth an ask. Big hugs to you all

nickymanchester · 24/07/2013 16:08

I want his warned and watched like a hawk - maybe added to some list so that he can never ever work near or around children.

Don't worry, he will be. If he is convicted of any offence then, as well as any other punishment he might receive in court, he will also be placed on the Sex Offenders Register and would probably be made subject to a Sexual Offences Prevention Order as well. These will place restrictions on what he can do.

He will also be covered by the Disclosure and Barring Service and so would never be allowed to work with children or vulnerable adults.

Karmaseas · 25/07/2013 10:22

Thankyou nickmanchester.
I have asked the police if there will be a prosecution based on the evidence and information we have provided, but they cannot state yet until all information is invesitigated and gathered together. So, we wait.
My daughter hasn't been questioned as yet but it will be done by video and it is a female officer dealing with it

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