Full pre-sentencing report

[LittleDragon]

DP has pleaded guilty to 3 counts of section 4a of the public order act. The magistrates have ordered for probation to carry out assessments for a full pre-sentencing report. What should DP expect? And will the fact he went to a special school be taken into account even though he doesn't know what if any diagnosis was given?

Oh so your saying what the police tell me is a load of bollocks are you? I have said what the police have told me is in his record. He told the police to tell me what was in his record so that there are no secrets between us.

So in his police record it states that he got drunk and put his arm round a woman and touched her breast? and in his police record it states that he was convicted of a game of texting that got out of hand?

Is that what you are telling me?

I thought a police record records offences. So "sexual assault" and "malicious texts". are you telling me that his police record gives the details of the circumstances surrounding these convictions and his motivations and that it was all a misunderstanding really... AND that the police actually read all this out to you?

Right.

Did you go into the police station to read his file, or did a 'policeofficer' phone you up?

And he simply asked them to tell you and they did? none of these pesky data protection hoops to jump through? How good of them...

Seriously, why are you with this man? He has a history of assaulting and harassing women. It says on your profile that you are ttc, can I suggest that you have a long think about your relationship before you even think of bringing a child into it.

Why does he not have any contact with his child from a previous relationship?

Is he on the sex offenders register op? Is that why the police told you of his previous offences?

He is not on the sex offenders register. There is a pilot scheme in this area where mothers can find out details on a partner if there are children around. We went to a meeting with a police officer that deals with the scheme and yes id was seen and checked. The details of offences can be checked on so the mother can make her own decision. I have been in touch with child services and there are no definates as to whether a child would be taken from us. They have said we would undergo an assessment but until that is complete there is no saying what would happen. The assessment will be in place as soon as we know the outcome of the court case. He doesn't see his child due to distance and because he still doesn't get on with his ex.

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Sorry I'm with Memoo and see you plan to get married next month as well as ttc. The fact you say he is remorseful but apparently hasn't learnt from his previous mistakes is concerning, SN or not. His history will be taken into account but possibly not all will be mitigating.

Ok I am not going to get into a slanging match regarding his behaviour, that is not to say I condone it in anyway I just don't think it is helpful to you at this moment.

It is entirely possible that the police have told the OP exactly what her partner did. There is often a record kept not least because sentencing tribunals often like to be made aware of the facts relating to previous convictions, so these days the police national computer often contains brief facts of the case in realtion to convictions.

Just because the previous tribunal have said they were looking at custody doesn't mean a custodial sentence would follow, in many cases (I would say the majority) where there has been a positive PSR the sentence will not be custodial.

That being said it appears there has been a sustained course of poor cnduct towards a number of different woman (is that right OP - three different complainants) that is hugely aggravating and may well mean custody is the only option.

Regardless of what happens to your partner I would think very seriously about whether this is a man you want to make a life with.