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Don't know what to do!

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MummytoThr3e · 07/03/2011 15:21

Have posted this elsewhere but was advised to try the post here too if anyone could help it would be appreciated :)

Link to original thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/what_would_you_do/1166154-Dont-know-what-to-do?msgid=24207924#24207924

Hey all, I'm new to mumsnet and could really do with some advice from people that don't know me as my friends will only try and cloud my judgement if I was to discuss it with them.

4 years ago I left my ex partner the father to my eldest 2 children due to domestic violence. I was with him for 4 years and a good 3 years of that was abusive. For the past 4 years he has chased me all over the country, he has stated quite clearly he wants me dead as he thinks he will get custody of the children.

4 years ago social services put a safe guarding agreement in place to stop him from going near the children. At this point the children were also placed on the child protection register despite the fact that I wasn't living in the area. When they did the transfer in conference no social worker ever bothered to turn up the children were kept on by new area for 3 months and then removed with no concerns.

In June 2009 I went back to the county that I came from originally (I thought it would take him longer to find us as he thought I was about 300 miles away) The children started school in the September within 3 weeks he had located us again, and I had social services on my doorstep! My children were put back on the child protection register! Every meeting they sit there and say they have no concerns over my children but yet they wont remove them!

Everytime he has found us we have been forced to go into refuge, which is where we are again currently (have been here since October).

I have changed our names by deed poll twice already, his mother works within the NHS, his mothers best friend (although I don't know her name) works for social services, and his fathers best friend works for the police. I am aware due to him telling me in emails and such like that he is accessing my information through these people.

The problem that I have now is that I am in a refuge 300 miles away from where I was the social services case is still with the area that I am previously from. My homeless application has been made in the area that I am in and I have been offered a house in this area too however it is not available until the end of the month.

Social services are refusing to transfer the case until I have a tenancy, which means they will hold my new address which obviously they would be able to access so it is only going to be a matter of time before he appears again.

If I move into the house the only option I will have is to go onto the exchange list and hope that something comes up quickly so that they don't hold the correct address for me.

But my dilemma sits with this, I have the opportunity to go to Ireland I have friends out there who have offered to put me up until I have sorted myself out over there. Another friend has told me that if i go over there then social services won't be able to touch me, nhs number etc will all go so I wouldn't be able to be found out there.

To me this feels like running away and makes me look guilty when I have done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, but at the same time it seems like an amazing opportunity, the chance to start again to not be found again, to put some roots down for the children, get them into school (have been homeschooling since October) and give them some stability.

My head is a mess I don't know what to do, I know the right thing to do by the law is to stay here and have the case transferred and then have the children removed from the register (social workers here have been seeing the children regularly since i have been up here and have said they have seen no reasons for them to be on there and that they want the case transferred so they can be removed) but that is only going to happen if social services there have my new address which puts me at risk

I dont know what to do :(

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LaurieFairyCake · 07/03/2011 15:27

Does your ex know you have friends in Ireland?

How are you being protected now - do you have a restraining order, is he allowed no contact with the children at all - has this all been legally sorted out?

I'm not sure I understand why you are concerned that your children are on the child protection register Confused Due to circumstances (not your fault at all!) they have to be on there.

I wouldn't move to Ireland as I think he is just as likely to track you down, actually I would stay as visible as possible to social services/police so that me/the children would be protected.

MummytoThr3e · 07/03/2011 15:57

He knows of the friends however the last he knew they were in England he doesn't know they went over to Ireland.

Injunction ended last September the courts won't renew it because the police couldn't prove it was him doing the things that were happening. Currently 300 miles away in the middle of nowhere in a refuge. The only thing in place is the safe guarding agreement which was created in 2007, he has never gone through any legal channels to try and have contact.

I have no issues with my children being on the child protection register. My issue is that they are on the register in a county that I have not lived in for 6 months and have no intention of returning too. His mothers friend works within social services in the area that they are on the register. At every case conference and core group all professionals state that they have no concerns for my children but yet they still stay on the register?! No other area has kept my children on for more than 3 months after the case being transferred to them before my children are removed with no concerns.

It is social services, the police and the NHS that have put me at risk every time due to people accessing records they are not supposed to.

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Resolution · 07/03/2011 16:20

How do you think he found out where you were this time? I know it's easy to be paranoid when you have good cause, but it might well just be chance.

Does he have parental responsibility?

The problem in running to Ireland is that at some point you'll have to stop running.

GypsyMoth · 07/03/2011 16:55

i replied on your other thread

are you sure he's not getting his info from facebook or somewhere??

maybe call police/ss/nhs to report this?? (clutching at straws)

MummytoThr3e · 07/03/2011 16:55

He found me the last time through my NHS records.
I actually have an email from him stating this with the details of the birth of my son including what pain relief I had and how long each stage of labour was!

Yes he does have parental responsibility.

Im hoping that if I go to Ireland then the running will stop and I will be able to put roots down for the children and hopefully not be found as obviously I won't be using the NHS, NI number etc.

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MummytoThr3e · 07/03/2011 16:57

ILoveTiffany I'm not on facebook.

Have reported it all complaints either get ignored or things are covered up (those that he knows are in rather high positions which is no doubt why Confused )

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GypsyMoth · 07/03/2011 16:57

he'll find you some other way.....i agree about stopping the running.

MummytoThr3e · 07/03/2011 17:06

If I don't run though I will end up dead, the running has got to stop but it needs to stop when my children and myself are safe...

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GypsyMoth · 07/03/2011 17:09

could you settle in Ireland and never look over your shoulde again?

sorry that so many agencies seem to be failing you here....local mp about the info getting out? i dont know

but i do know what it feels like to be in fear of your life. and i didnt have even half of your problems.

MummytoThr3e · 07/03/2011 17:27

I don't know this is one of the things that I keep thinking to myself I know if I go then there is no going back.

Only thing about the local MP is that I am not local to where the things are happening, MP's local to me are not interested in something that is happening 300 miles away.

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racmac · 07/03/2011 17:34

My advice would be to change your name now - move to Ireland, in a different area to start with
then when you feel ready change your name again - do not leave any trace at all
Be aware of new GP requesting records etc - it all leaves a paper trail.

or alternatively consider Australia?

terrible situation to be in have you escalated a complain with the police?

MummytoThr3e · 07/03/2011 17:40

The GP records was the other thing that I thought of is there no way around that?

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Resolution · 07/03/2011 17:40

I have known the police to help out in people establishing new identities in serious DV cases, would they help?

Why can't the NHS establish who breached your confidentiality?

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