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Would 4 break us?

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undecidedindecisive · 24/11/2013 23:50

I'm deliberating on having a fourth, and would appreciate really honest answers on whether I'm being led by fantasy rather than reality.

The three are lovely but hard work (8, 5, 2). Me and DP work full time, DP does long hours, often 60-80 hr weeks, with extra work outside that. I could reduce to part-time if necessary. We're both close to 40, and have spent the best part of a decade with a child between 0-3, which we find exhausting and impacts negatively on our relationship (separate beds for a year due to sleep deprivation, no babysitters due to velcro babies, general exhaustion and competitive tiredness). So usually at age 2 child sleeps better, life feels easier and we feel broody. Hence the 3 yr gap.

We are a same sex couple, and I carried all 3 DC, I am definitely not up for pregnancy, breastfeeding, nights etc. again. But DP is ambivalent about trying (fertility issues in past), but we have the option to try before we get too old. So broodiness has hit again. But would it break us?

My fantasy head imagines:
It will be a tough first year, an easier 2nd year, and then we will be delighted to have all four. The four means that there won't be one left out (I said fantasy!), and they will love being a gaggle of 4. They currently do argue, obviously, but are a very close gang, and love being together (2 big ones share a room). I will get to have another baby without the bits I hate (feeding, pregnancy, weight gain, night feeds). We will be more flexible and less stressed about naptimes and working around the baby, so we will still get to do things like camping and day trips.

My fears are:
It will ruin our chances of having any couple time for another 3 years, we won't be able to do so much stuff because it will be hard to find things that all four ages like, we won't be able to afford things (holidays - don't really do those, but kid activities, day trips etc.). Also that I will regret it - that I will wish we'd stopped at 3 and been having a better time (we've just started getting away for a night a few times a year). We will have a house full of baby stuff and tiny bits of plastic for an extra 3 yrs. Financially things being tight and me having to be careful for another decade, and resenting the loss of income (we're finally reaching a point of breaking even and covering the debts accrued over the past few years of multiple mat leaves).

So has anyone done it and ended up in either of those scenarios? And if it was all good, is that because you're a zen mother who just loves kids, or is it possible even if you're a bit selfish and easily stressed?

Any advice would be great, as we keep switching from one definite no to definite yes, and need a reality check.

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4athomeand1cooking · 25/11/2013 12:53

For me the baby days are the easiest. I found having 4 really made an impact when then hit certain ages and then the behaviour gets challenging. When you have other children, I find babies slot in quite easily to the daily routine.

I have a 3, 5 (both boys) and 8,10 (girls) so yours will be about the same ages.

the boys are just finding their voices and seeing how far they can push boundaries, the middle two are constantly fighting, the youngest has just potty trained but needs to go every five minutes, the eldest has found hormones, they all want constant attention. Then there are the clubs and after school activities now they are older etc...

I am not saying it will break you (I have gone for number 5) and I don't think I could ever regret having them, but I can honestly say that I am more tired and restricted time wise now then when they were younger or there were less of them.

undecidedindecisive · 25/11/2013 13:26

4athome - thanks for replying, and congratulations on no. 5! This is what I'm fearing - splitting my attention and finding I don't have enough. Do you work, and do you think its harder/easier to work as well as have the 4?

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4athomeand1cooking · 25/11/2013 14:23

I work full time from home so it is an very organised juggling act for us. The biggest strain is on our relationship. I have a very close connection with DH but the children will test this through playing us off against each other, especially if they hit us with something new and one disagrees with the other over discipline. But this can happen if you have 1,2,3 or 4 kids. I think I am noticing it more because while one is doing that, the others are fighting in the living room, or someone is shoving a Christmas list in my hand!

We spend very little time together even though we work together. We try to make a point of having a chat every evening, and talking through the next day etc.. and that is our alone time.

To be honest I wouldn't have it any other way. It all slots into place but I would be lying if I said it was easy. Work is definitely harder to negotiate and I if I am not cooking, cleaning, running around with the children, I am sat working.

With all the above in mind I still love the big family and the fun is so worth the struggle.

undecidedindecisive · 25/11/2013 14:32

Thanks for that, I need to hear the reality as things are quite great now, so we have that tempting future of more nights away together and evenings together at the moment. And the three keep giving us weekend lie ins by playing happily either on their own or together!

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allyfe · 29/11/2013 13:52

Oh, thanks so much for this post OP, I am actually in the same situation (nearly), except that we currently have two. But there are twins in my family, and I'm over 40, and so I have to accept there is a LARGE risk we would go from 2 to 4! I'm really worried that it would upset the balance, and we are just getting to the stage where we have time to spend with each child (3 & 4). Looking forward to seeing what others have to say!

undecidedindecisive · 03/12/2013 16:07

Hi Ally - I had the same indecision with going for number 3, but in my heart I'd always wanted 3, so it wasn't too hard to go for. After mulling it over, I am thinking more and more to stop now. Everytime things are tricky with the 3 kids I think 'thank god we don't have 4!' which is a bit telling! But 3 is fine... good luck deciding.

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isitsnowingyet · 03/12/2013 16:15

We have 3 which seems pretty much how I expected it. But at times now that they are older, I'm very happy with stopping at 3.

I think if you have a calm and coping sort of personality (I don't!!) and can cope with a lot of washing/cleaning/organising loads of stuff and have enough money coming in then no doubt you'd be fine. Not very articulate there -sorry. I personally know of 2 families where the parents split - one with 5 kids, the other with 4 kids. They might well have split up anyway, but it does make you wonder.

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