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EllaDisenchanted · 20/05/2024 07:20

Hello all, decompression thread 3️⃣

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DownNative · 06/06/2024 12:36

A while ago, I demonstrated* *how most young people in the UK are NOT taught about the MER conflict.

Fewer than 2% of them study it and only 27 schools in England teach it.

That clearly and utterly means the vast, vast majority of young people are NOT taught which also obviously calls into question the idea they're better informed than past generations.

Social Media is actually the scene of PsyOps & cognitive warfare battles with certain States trying to destabilise the Western powers.

Terrorist groups have one advantage over Sovereign States - they rarely change leaders whereas democratic Western States change theirs pretty often!

That's why tackling Terrorist groups shouldn't be about political parties fighting with each other on the issue.

United we stand, divided we fall.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 12:36

Can I distract you all? Does anyone live in the bounds of an eruv? I've been fascinated by them ever since I realised I once lived in one.

EllaDisenchanted · 06/06/2024 12:38

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 12:36

Can I distract you all? Does anyone live in the bounds of an eruv? I've been fascinated by them ever since I realised I once lived in one.

Meeeee

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EllaDisenchanted · 06/06/2024 12:39

@YetAnotherSpartacus ask away. I remember when they set up the one in Manchester when I was living there. GAMECHANGER! It was the best thing ever. I live in one now in Israel, but that is standard in Israel

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 12:52

I don't really have any questions ... I can see they would be a game changer. The concept just makes me smile (but in a nice and not nasty way).

I first read about them here https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/eruv/ when I was chasing up a recipe for potato kuggel.

The term 'magic schlepping circle' stuck with me and I recalled how so many of the comedies I used to watch (from the US mainly) had Jewish comedians in them.

What Is An Eruv? | My Jewish Learning

Eruv, Shabbat in the Community. String Around the City. Weekly Holy Day. Jewish Shabbat.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/eruv

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 12:53

I guess I wondered how common they were!

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 13:07

And thinking I lived in one and didn't know so didn't try to find it!

Humdingerydoo · 06/06/2024 13:32

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 12:36

Can I distract you all? Does anyone live in the bounds of an eruv? I've been fascinated by them ever since I realised I once lived in one.

Very London-centric!

I love that Wikipedia breaks down individual areas for London and then just has "Manchester" as though the whole city is in one!

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EllaDisenchanted · 06/06/2024 14:13

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 12:52

I don't really have any questions ... I can see they would be a game changer. The concept just makes me smile (but in a nice and not nasty way).

I first read about them here https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/eruv/ when I was chasing up a recipe for potato kuggel.

The term 'magic schlepping circle' stuck with me and I recalled how so many of the comedies I used to watch (from the US mainly) had Jewish comedians in them.

On the subject of potato kugel, you need the kosher by design recipe. I can post it for you if you want, I make it, and it is DELICIOUS. Although I omit one of the ingredients. And have been known to tinker with it a bit. I can post it and write my alterations if you want? 😄

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EdithStourton · 06/06/2024 14:32

Chinese people can have strong feelings about Japan (as do many Brits who remember the treatment of pow's)
I fall into that category - but I grew up on horror stories from the civilian side as well. My paternal family was very much in the way of Japanese expansion, and the family stories (massacre, summary execution, near escapes from being raped, torture, internment and starvation etc...) have made me very suspicious of murderous, militaristic regimes.

So it baffles me how anyone can think Hamas is a good idea.

The Japanese government during World War II was, incidentally, also antisemitic. Singapore's Jews ended up interned.

On a more jolly note, I remember how delighted Jewish friends in north London were when they were finally inside an eruv.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 14:58

On the subject of potato kugel, you need the kosher by design recipe. I can post it for you if you want, I make it, and it is DELICIOUS.

Sounds wonderful! Thank you! I don't have a food processor though (the online version I found used one).

I don't remember mine being terribly wonderful ... rather heavy (not in a good way).

Years ago when I had more time and was much younger I used to do this thing where I'd try and live like someone from another culture (modern or historical) for a week to the best of my ability, so cooking the food and researching the culture, rituals and beliefs, maybe observing a few and so on. I wanted the recipe for that. Being vegetarian, I struggled a little with Jewish cuisine (and was mainly following US so probably Ashkenazi recipes) but I fell in love with Jain cooking (much easier). I used to prepare in advance and buy specialist ingredients and so on.

Writing that it sounds weird but it was very private and I didn't flaunt it on social media (and I don't think social media was as popular as it is now anyway).

EllaDisenchanted · 06/06/2024 15:10

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 14:58

On the subject of potato kugel, you need the kosher by design recipe. I can post it for you if you want, I make it, and it is DELICIOUS.

Sounds wonderful! Thank you! I don't have a food processor though (the online version I found used one).

I don't remember mine being terribly wonderful ... rather heavy (not in a good way).

Years ago when I had more time and was much younger I used to do this thing where I'd try and live like someone from another culture (modern or historical) for a week to the best of my ability, so cooking the food and researching the culture, rituals and beliefs, maybe observing a few and so on. I wanted the recipe for that. Being vegetarian, I struggled a little with Jewish cuisine (and was mainly following US so probably Ashkenazi recipes) but I fell in love with Jain cooking (much easier). I used to prepare in advance and buy specialist ingredients and so on.

Writing that it sounds weird but it was very private and I didn't flaunt it on social media (and I don't think social media was as popular as it is now anyway).

Sounds like a really interesting personal project :) no, potato kugel should be light and fluffy. I hand grate it or use a food processor, depending on if I’m doubling or tripling the recipe (don’t, unless you are feeding the cast of thousands. It makes a lot). You have to move quick as your grated potatoes will begin to grey, I usually grate the onion first and put in the eggs as well to try cover it from air a bit.

hot out the oven it is delicious

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 15:12

You have to move quick as your grated potatoes will begin to grey,

I discovered that during Irish week ... :(

EllaDisenchanted · 06/06/2024 15:27

Traditional potato kugel (susie fishbein)

1/2 cup veg or canola oil (I use sunflower)
8 medium potatoes (I use largish ones )
2 medium onions
1 tablespoon salt
1 teaspoon freshly ground pepper (I use already ground, coarse, but I use less than 1 tsp, I think maybe 1/4 or 1/2 depending on how fine the pepper is - use less for finely ground)
2 1/2 tablespoons sugar - I OMIT ENTIRELY. done with and without and made no difference to taste or texture, so I prefer not to add
5 large eggs, beaten with a whisk

preheat oven to 425 f (roughly 220c)
place the oil in a large 9x 13 container (inches - I often put into 3 loaf tins instead, so I can eat one and freeze two). Set aside. (later in the recipe it says put the pan with oil in the oven, until it sizzles. I actually put the oil in the oven at this point so it is heating up while I grate. Don’t omit this step)

fill a large bowl with cold water and add ice cubes. Peel potatoes and place then into the bowl of cold water. This will prevent them from turning brown. (I don’t use ice cubes, I find generally the browning happens after it is grated, not once it is peeled)

finely chop the onions in the container of a food processor fitted with a metal blade.. (I hand grate, and sometimes use an extra v small onion, because I don’t grate to the end bc I like my fingers ). remove them to a large bowl. (I use my challah bowl. It is ginormous. You probably don’t need that size 😅). Cut the potatoes into chunks and place them into the food processor; process until smooth ( I hand grate, using the finer setting) add the potatoes to the onions.

add the salt pepper (and sugar if using) to the potato mixture. Add the eggs and stir until thoroughly combined.

(at this point the recipe says to place the baking pan with oil into the oven. I already have mine in the oven.) when the oil sizzles, carefully remove from oven and spoon some of it into the potato mixture ( it will definitely be hot enough by the time you have done all the grating. Be extremely carefully, the oil is extremely hot and sizzles. I also add all of it in one go, just pouring it slowly so it doesn’t splash me with boiling oil from the sizzling). this will help make the kugel fluffy (true)mix well. Pour the potatoes into the oiled pan. Bake uncovered for one hour.

I use the same mixture to make latkes on chanuka, instead of doing the heating oil thing, I just add it into the bowl without heating, and then take small handfuls and shallow fry them, flipping on both sides til it is golden brown, doesn’t take long. Dip hot into apple sauce

not the prettiest pic, but these are ones I made for Pesach.

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 15:38

They look wonderful - and thank you so much for the time you took to post the recipe and personal instructions. I can't wait to try it!

Humdingerydoo · 06/06/2024 15:51

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 14:58

On the subject of potato kugel, you need the kosher by design recipe. I can post it for you if you want, I make it, and it is DELICIOUS.

Sounds wonderful! Thank you! I don't have a food processor though (the online version I found used one).

I don't remember mine being terribly wonderful ... rather heavy (not in a good way).

Years ago when I had more time and was much younger I used to do this thing where I'd try and live like someone from another culture (modern or historical) for a week to the best of my ability, so cooking the food and researching the culture, rituals and beliefs, maybe observing a few and so on. I wanted the recipe for that. Being vegetarian, I struggled a little with Jewish cuisine (and was mainly following US so probably Ashkenazi recipes) but I fell in love with Jain cooking (much easier). I used to prepare in advance and buy specialist ingredients and so on.

Writing that it sounds weird but it was very private and I didn't flaunt it on social media (and I don't think social media was as popular as it is now anyway).

That sounds like a really fun idea! If you ever want to try non-Ashkenazi but still Jewish recipes, I have a veggie Iraqi-Jewish cookbook with lots of interesting recipes :)

CloudyAgain · 06/06/2024 15:55

I really rate an Orthodox Sephardi woman on youtube called Sonya. She makes just beautiful food and has made me much more confident with herbs and spices and seasonings. My older DS has food issues due to autism and I make a roast chicken with lashings of sweet paprika, garlic salt, cinnamon, turmeric, parsley, coriander inspired by Sonya and it has become his absolute favourite.

https://www.youtube.com/@SonyasPrep

I will one day get around to giving cholent a go. I find the thought of it quite intimidating.

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/@SonyasPrep

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/06/2024 16:04

All the food ideas sound wonderful! Keep them coming. Food can bring so much joy.

EllaDisenchanted · 06/06/2024 16:26

CloudyAgain · 06/06/2024 15:55

I really rate an Orthodox Sephardi woman on youtube called Sonya. She makes just beautiful food and has made me much more confident with herbs and spices and seasonings. My older DS has food issues due to autism and I make a roast chicken with lashings of sweet paprika, garlic salt, cinnamon, turmeric, parsley, coriander inspired by Sonya and it has become his absolute favourite.

https://www.youtube.com/@SonyasPrep

I will one day get around to giving cholent a go. I find the thought of it quite intimidating.

It’s almost impossible to ruin cholent. Whether or not you actually like what you make is another story … 😅 I suspect it’s one of those things you had to have grown up eating to eat it as an adult.

DH took over cholent making here.

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Humdingerydoo · 06/06/2024 17:59

"It’s almost impossible to ruin cholent. Whether or not you actually like what you make is another story"

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

(A bit like with floaty kneidlach and gefilte fish, really 🤪)

EllaDisenchanted · 06/06/2024 20:22

@Humdingerydoo i want to remain friends with you, but you really need to stop coming after my knaidlach. ✌️🕊️

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Humdingerydoo · 06/06/2024 20:29

EllaDisenchanted · 06/06/2024 20:22

@Humdingerydoo i want to remain friends with you, but you really need to stop coming after my knaidlach. ✌️🕊️

Sorry, sorry! I just saw an opportunity and took it 😇

All kneidlach are good kneidlach

EllaDisenchanted · 06/06/2024 21:35

Humdingerydoo · 06/06/2024 20:29

Sorry, sorry! I just saw an opportunity and took it 😇

All kneidlach are good kneidlach

Matzo Ball Passover GIF by It's Suppertime

and in this, we agree 😄

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EllaDisenchanted · 06/06/2024 21:38

EllaDisenchanted · 06/06/2024 15:27

Traditional potato kugel (susie fishbein)

1/2 cup veg or canola oil (I use sunflower)
8 medium potatoes (I use largish ones )
2 medium onions
1 tablespoon salt
1 teaspoon freshly ground pepper (I use already ground, coarse, but I use less than 1 tsp, I think maybe 1/4 or 1/2 depending on how fine the pepper is - use less for finely ground)
2 1/2 tablespoons sugar - I OMIT ENTIRELY. done with and without and made no difference to taste or texture, so I prefer not to add
5 large eggs, beaten with a whisk

preheat oven to 425 f (roughly 220c)
place the oil in a large 9x 13 container (inches - I often put into 3 loaf tins instead, so I can eat one and freeze two). Set aside. (later in the recipe it says put the pan with oil in the oven, until it sizzles. I actually put the oil in the oven at this point so it is heating up while I grate. Don’t omit this step)

fill a large bowl with cold water and add ice cubes. Peel potatoes and place then into the bowl of cold water. This will prevent them from turning brown. (I don’t use ice cubes, I find generally the browning happens after it is grated, not once it is peeled)

finely chop the onions in the container of a food processor fitted with a metal blade.. (I hand grate, and sometimes use an extra v small onion, because I don’t grate to the end bc I like my fingers ). remove them to a large bowl. (I use my challah bowl. It is ginormous. You probably don’t need that size 😅). Cut the potatoes into chunks and place them into the food processor; process until smooth ( I hand grate, using the finer setting) add the potatoes to the onions.

add the salt pepper (and sugar if using) to the potato mixture. Add the eggs and stir until thoroughly combined.

(at this point the recipe says to place the baking pan with oil into the oven. I already have mine in the oven.) when the oil sizzles, carefully remove from oven and spoon some of it into the potato mixture ( it will definitely be hot enough by the time you have done all the grating. Be extremely carefully, the oil is extremely hot and sizzles. I also add all of it in one go, just pouring it slowly so it doesn’t splash me with boiling oil from the sizzling). this will help make the kugel fluffy (true)mix well. Pour the potatoes into the oiled pan. Bake uncovered for one hour.

I use the same mixture to make latkes on chanuka, instead of doing the heating oil thing, I just add it into the bowl without heating, and then take small handfuls and shallow fry them, flipping on both sides til it is golden brown, doesn’t take long. Dip hot into apple sauce

not the prettiest pic, but these are ones I made for Pesach.

Edited

I forgot to say, you will have some liquid in the bottom of the mixing bowl at the end; don't leave it out, pour it over the mixture and make sure you get all of it in. It ends up being very wet, with grated potatoes and onions in basically. I have occasionally grated in a carrot as well for colour and just used one half potato less.

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Humdingerydoo · 07/06/2024 09:07

I assume the thread on AIBU will be moved to CITME now that MN are "having a look at it" 🙃

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