How are you?

[Lamelie]

I posted here in solidarity when this sub was first created. Just wanted to drop in to say I want you to know there’s still a lot of support and love for you and Israel. I’ve been in Europe recently and travelling through airports, seeing lots of Israeli families, the posters at UK border control offering support for those who’ve been in Israel and seen atrocities. There’s a lot of love and utter certainty that Israel has the right to exist and defend herself.
Am Israel Chai
🇮🇱♥️

Thank you.

This sort of message is very comforting.

Still feels like I'm wading through mud on a daily basis, but that's just life now. To know that not everyone is against us is good!

thanks @Lamelie. very appreciated ♥️ I’m tired, was just saying to a friend in RL that it feels like Covid time- time is all muddled up, the days are years.

I can only imagine- it’s all consuming and I don’t have skin in the game- horrible expression but it’s all so visceral.

I’m just very sad that the country that has been my home for more than 60 years at times no longer feels like home and that amongst a small but very vocal group of people my rights as both a woman and a Jew are neither respected nor valued

Oh @gingergran 💔
You are loved and you belong here.
I do think that a lot of lack of support comes from a belief that peace at all costs is sacrosanct. A luxury that a vast majority of people in England have through an accident of birth- they’ve not had grandparents who had to flee or worse. It comes from a place of ignorance.

This is really interesting. I hadn't thought of it this way. I've always been struck by the general narrative around the war years and even the blitz in this country. Even the non-Jewish side of my family came from a country that was occupied by the Nazis and the way the older generation viewed the war years was very different to some of the things I have heard from friends' British-born grandparents. There's almost a misty-eyed nostalgia in the UK (i suspect it has chnaged over time).

I suppose in a similar way, none of us can understand what it's like to live as Israelis do, with hostile countries on all borders and constant rockets being fired.

Sorry, realise that was a slight derail but it was this line that got me thinking @Lamelie

I do think that a lot of lack of support comes from a belief that peace at all costs is sacrosanct

And sending hugs and good wishes to you @gingergran

Yes, this is very interesting to me. In my own family I've always found an interesting comparison with how the older generation of my British dad's side talked about the war in this country, compared to my mother's side who fled Paris for a time after 1940. The wartime nostalgia has definitely been a thing on my British side of the family to the point of being rose-tinted, even as Jews. While the trauma and fear has always been more intense on the French side, even the generational trauma today.

@gingergran

Thank you everybody

I do think that a lot of lack of support comes from a belief that peace at all costs is sacrosanct. A luxury that a vast majority of people in England have through an accident of birth- they’ve not had grandparents who had to flee or worse. It comes from a place of ignorance.

This is very true.

I was staying with non-Jewish friends near York. I mentioned that I wanted to visit Cliffords Tower. They knew of it only as a landmark on the way to the Jorvik museum.

I tried to explain its significance to British Jews, about Masada, and about forced conversions. It was all ancient history to them, theoretical.

After we had visited the tower, they asked me whether any of my family had "died in the Holocaust". I told them that all of one grandparent's family, and about 75% of another grandparent's family, had been murdered.

Their response gobsmacked me with its naive insensitivity: their grandparents had also lost family members - serving with the British Army.

I've only just seen this section and I can't agree more with the OP. I too have no skin in the game but I stand with Israel and jews everywhere. The rest of the world should be with you and put an end to this situation.

The world stands threatened and Israel is the thin blue line.

It is disgusting that we are allowing terrorists, their supporters and their apologists free reign to take over our streets.

I'm very sorry that this has been allowed to happen.

Todays 2nd Bible reading in the Catholic Liturgy was Isaiah 62:1

For the non Catholics 😉 the readings are set in stone- this is Year A and those words have been spoken today every three years since 1969

For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's
sake I will not rest.

Am Ysrael Chai
With love and strength.