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Relatively small Vanguard S&S ISA; where to move to now?

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IndustrialActionAhoy · 15/12/2024 08:46

I've got a relatively small Vanguard S&S ISA, so I'll be hit disproportionately by the change to their fee structure.

I chose the FTSE Global All Cap Index fund, and this has done well recently - I currently pay in £150/month. I just wanted to set this up and forget about it!

Id probably like a reasonably well established platform, and the same or a similar fund. I know I can read around etc. (and I will), it's just that I thought I'd done that a year or so ago, and that I could relax for a while.

Does anyone have any comments or pointers?

OP posts:
IndustrialActionAhoy · 15/12/2024 10:38

Oops, can't edit on the app 😄.

I'm going to keep investigating, and will probably wait for that before I make any big decisions.

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ErrolTheDragon · 15/12/2024 10:45

I could put in a lump sum instead if this makes more sense.

Bleeding in more gradually is generally recommended to reduce the effects of bumps in the market. Obviously needs to be balanced against fees but I'd be a bit cautious about putting in a lump now when the markets are (last time I looked!) pretty high.

Medee · 15/12/2024 10:53

Yes, take your time to investigate as not all platforms will offer the same funds (such as the Monzo example in the Donegans’ article.)

Time in the market more important than timing the market, over the long term, so if you’ve got a lump sum get it in rather than drip feeding.

Lucanus · 23/12/2024 05:49

Transfer your Vanguard ISA to Trading 212 and go for a similar fund to what you have now e.g. Vanguard FTSE All World Acc (VWRP). You'll still pay the fee for the fund itself but no annual charge.

Slalomsfathoms · 23/12/2024 07:16

Placemarking, I am interested but haven't a clue

StarMincePies · 23/12/2024 14:17

I didn't think the S&S ISA was affected? Just the SIP and other investments. My email said the management fee for the ISA was going down.

KnutsfordCityLimits · 23/12/2024 18:46

I was confused about that @StarMincePies but it's the managed ISA fund where the fees are going down, but probably most of us smaller investors have a self-managed one, so on this page it gives the lifestrategy funds as an example of a self managed where fees are increasing www.vanguardinvestor.co.uk/what-we-offer/fees-explained/changes?cmpgn=ET1224UKPATAC1104EN

BedBathAndBeyonce · 23/12/2024 18:47

I’ve moved from Vanguard to Trading 212 and very happy.

StarMincePies · 23/12/2024 20:58

Aha @KnutsfordCityLimits - that's useful. Mine is in a passive tracker fund but I suppose that counts as managed.

MudpiesinEssex · 24/12/2024 14:08

Wetcappuccino · 15/12/2024 09:01

Wealthify is 0.6% and Nutmeg is 0.98% (annually).

Are investors still complaining about low returns from Wealthify, in reviews?

Wetcappuccino · 24/12/2024 14:47

Ooh I don’t know. My all time return has been >11% anyway.

Numberwangggg · 24/12/2024 20:08

StarMincePies · 23/12/2024 20:58

Aha @KnutsfordCityLimits - that's useful. Mine is in a passive tracker fund but I suppose that counts as managed.

No.
Managed funds are actively managed, passive funds follow the market.

MainStreetOrHighStreet · 24/12/2024 21:35

Bugger! I only transferred to Vanguard from Wealthify a couple of months ago. I have the Lifestrategy 80% Equity fund with about £3k in it, should I move it?

StarMincePies · 24/12/2024 22:29

Oh well I'm even more confused then as my email definitely says the % fee is reducing - not changing to the £4 minimum etc fee.

HopelesslyOptimistic · 27/12/2024 15:35

I'm in the same boat. Very annoying as I transferred my child's isa recently too, back to the drawing board.

mamabestrong · 28/12/2024 10:45

IndustrialActionAhoy · 15/12/2024 08:46

I've got a relatively small Vanguard S&S ISA, so I'll be hit disproportionately by the change to their fee structure.

I chose the FTSE Global All Cap Index fund, and this has done well recently - I currently pay in £150/month. I just wanted to set this up and forget about it!

Id probably like a reasonably well established platform, and the same or a similar fund. I know I can read around etc. (and I will), it's just that I thought I'd done that a year or so ago, and that I could relax for a while.

Does anyone have any comments or pointers?

I found this guide useful:
pickafund.com/pages/choosing-the-best-investment-platform

freemoneyalwayswelcome · 28/12/2024 12:19

From my own perspective - Vanguard is still a viable, fairly cheap option even for smaller amounts below the £32K affected by the changes.

Transparent fee structure; easy to navigate platform; products are straightforward and streamlined. Comparing one fund or EFT with another is easily accomplished. No transfer fees, exit fees, performance fees or foreign exchange charges.

Experience with other platforms - impact of fees are less easy to assess, particularly if making regular payments into the investment, or if you decide to switch or cash in your investment.
There can be unwelcome hidden surprises further down the line...
For instance, if the platform charges FX fees (platforms such as Trading 212), the impact of those fees might not become apparent until you have invested over several years and your investment has grown substantially and you want to sell or cash it in.

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 06/01/2025 12:41

I've still no clue what to do.

tinyshoulders · 06/01/2025 12:46

HopelesslyOptimistic · 27/12/2024 15:35

I'm in the same boat. Very annoying as I transferred my child's isa recently too, back to the drawing board.

That one is fine, isn’t it? The changes don’t affect junior ISAs. My kids both have S+S junior ISAs with Vanguard, invested solely in the FTSE Global All Cap fund that OP has referred to, and have had a 37.5% return since early 2022, so definitely worth it IMO!

Ineffable23 · 06/01/2025 12:50

Yeah I dunno what to do either. I might just massively up my investments and see how I get on but I had wanted to dip my toe in for a while first really. I think probably the best thing will be to dunk some cash in and then increase my investments fairly sharpish, as everything looks expensive in comparison once you get over say about 15k. That's only from a vague Google though.

HopelesslyOptimistic · 06/01/2025 15:41

I've just withdrawn my S&S and think I'm going to buy Bitcoin.

HappyHolidai · 06/01/2025 16:08

HopelesslyOptimistic · 06/01/2025 15:41

I've just withdrawn my S&S and think I'm going to buy Bitcoin.

Apt username!

IndustrialActionAhoy · 06/01/2025 18:47

HopelesslyOptimistic · 06/01/2025 15:41

I've just withdrawn my S&S and think I'm going to buy Bitcoin.

OK, I'm not doing this 😄.

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carlottacandle · 08/01/2025 06:47

Which is best to open now for small amounts! I want to open one with 2k and they make regular £50 deposits. I was going to go with a global fund. Any recommendations?

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