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Paying tax when selling collectibles

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Hairybaker · 19/12/2022 06:34

My OH has always loved trainers and has around 100 pairs, mostly unworn. Their value has gone up, say from £150 to £500 each on average. If he were to sell them what is the tax implication?! Not getting much useful info from the HMRC website.

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ACynicalDad · 19/12/2022 08:27

If he has had the collectibles more than a year they are taxed as capital gains. You get a generous allowance of about £10k this year but it halved next financial year (April onwards) and again the April after. So if he plans to sell it may be worth selling a load in the next 3 months. The gain would be 500-150 not the full 500, you could probably take ebay/platform costs off too.

ginislife · 19/12/2022 08:30

Depends if he's doing it as a business or selling his personal stuff

Ifailed · 19/12/2022 08:34

Depends if he's doing it as a business or selling his personal stuff
If he sets up a business, it will have to buy the stuff off him to sell, so he'll still be making a personal capital gain.

Hairybaker · 19/12/2022 08:50

Thanks all. He is employed full time and is a higher rate tax earner if that makes any difference?

I will look into the capital gains tax rules and changes as you’re right it sounds like it’s worth selling some asap!

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Beneficialchampion2 · 19/12/2022 17:17

CGT allowance is £12300 not £10000 as per PP.

If he's an additional rate tax payer any gains over £12300 are taxed at 20%. He will need to do a self assessment tax return.

Chasingsquirrels · 19/12/2022 17:21

If your OH is actually your husband or civil partner then they could gift some to you (at no gain no loss - ie cost) for you to sell and use your annual allowance as well (if they are going to exceed theirs).

Doesn't apply if you are just partners.

Hairybaker · 19/12/2022 19:03

Beneficialchampion2 · 19/12/2022 17:17

CGT allowance is £12300 not £10000 as per PP.

If he's an additional rate tax payer any gains over £12300 are taxed at 20%. He will need to do a self assessment tax return.

Thank you! I found the £12300 allowance on hmrc website so that makes sense. Is there a maximum amount of profit he can make so you know, or not as long as he pays the 20% on everything over the alliance?

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Hairybaker · 19/12/2022 19:06

*allowance that should say!

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Hellocatshome · 19/12/2022 19:09

There is no maximum amount but as above you have to pay tax on anything over the annual exempt amount of £12300 although I would check if trainers are classed by HMRC as wasting chattels I.e have a useful life of less then 50 years in which case they are exempt anyway.

buckingmad · 19/12/2022 19:12

If he is doing it as a trade then it would be classed as trading income. If it’s a hobby then they are exempt from CGT as they are “wasting chattel” ie short useful life, movable and less than £6k each. No CGT due and no tax return required.

Hairybaker · 19/12/2022 20:00

Thanks all, really appreciate this, although it’s so confusing! I did think they may be classed as a chattel but will have to check.

They will be well under £6k each but there is a lot of them so profit could be in the thousands. How do you know when a hobby starts and a business ends? He bought them as he loves designer/sports stuff but a lot of them have gone up in value and we need the spare room back in the house! 🤣

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Hellocatshome · 19/12/2022 20:58

How do you know when a hobby starts and a business ends? He bought them as he loves designer/sports stuff but a lot of them have gone up in value and we need the spare room back in the house! 🤣

This circumstance wouldn't usually be classed as a trade as they weren't bought with the intention of selling and they have been in his possession for a long period of time. If he was buying them and listing them for sale within a short time period they would then appear to be stock and the sale would be a trade.

buckingmad · 19/12/2022 20:59

Hairybaker · 19/12/2022 20:00

Thanks all, really appreciate this, although it’s so confusing! I did think they may be classed as a chattel but will have to check.

They will be well under £6k each but there is a lot of them so profit could be in the thousands. How do you know when a hobby starts and a business ends? He bought them as he loves designer/sports stuff but a lot of them have gone up in value and we need the spare room back in the house! 🤣

There are markers on HMRC but things like operating with a view to a profit, frequency of purchases and sales etc would indicate a trade.

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