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Buy to let - a beginners guide

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starchildmum · 24/03/2021 19:15

Hi

I was wondering what I need to know about buy to let? We purchased our residential flat a few years ago ( with still a big mortgage) but I was wondering if it would make sense to look into a 2nd buy to let property in London ( a small 1 bedroom flat) as an investment.

How much do I need to have as a downpayment? 20%? 25%?

What other costs are involved?

Is it true there is a current stamp duty holiday and properties even 2nd properties are priced at 3%?

What other taxes??

I have been told due to the tax change a dew years ago this sort of investment has become very unattractive. True?

Thank you for your help!

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maxelly · 25/03/2021 12:11

Gosh lots of questions, I don't know the answers to all of them, but bumping you a bit. I'd start with a bit of googling and it might also be worth seeking some personalised advice from a financial advisor too as whether it's a good idea or not depends on a huge range of very personal financial circumstances including your age, marital status, any DC and their ages, employment/income etc etc. Money Advice Service and Money Saving Expert are my go-tos for 'beginners'. financial advice... this [[https://www.which.co.uk/money/mortgages-and-property/home-movers/stamp-duty/buy-to-let-stamp-duty-a26by5t8dmcb article) explains stamp duty.

One thing I'd say is that while it's not true that BTL is a totally unattractive investment, obviously the rental sector is still going fairly strong, all landlords have not suddenly sold off all their properties and caused a complete crash, but the combination of tax changes and also a slowing in growth or uncertainty in the housing market in some parts of the country means it's not the absolute money making machine it once was, and I think this has certainly affected the small scale, 1 or 2 property landlords who do BTL as a sideline to their main employment or income the most - if you are already a 40% taxpayer that's quite a chunk going to the taxman rather than your profit.

25% is normally the minimum deposit yes, although of course as with residential mortgages the lower the LTV rate the less interest you'll pay so the better the yield/ROI. Other costs aside from the deposit, mortgage, stamp duty if applicable and tax include: legal fees on purchase, agents fees (will vary depending on whether you want them to solely market the property or provide full management service), service charge and ground rent on the building (for a leasehold flat -watch out for swanky new build complexes with gyms, lifts, concierge etc, the service charge can be £££), maintenance of the property and any furnishings/white goods you provide including things like regular fire safety checks, boiler servicing etc, landlords insurance and a 'sink fund' to cover void periods in the rent and also if you get unlucky and get bad tenants that trash the place or stop paying rent and need to be evicted. All in all your costs can really add up and if you have a hefty 75% LTV mortgage you probably shouldn't expect to make much if any of a profit for the first few years (it may even run at a loss) so you would be relying on capital growth in the value of the property for a return on your investment esp if you then want to sell and liquidate your equity in the short/medium term (remember you'll also pay CGT if and when you come to sell the property).

Also, of course, BTL is an active investment meaning you have to actively manage your property (even if you purchase a full management service) in order to maintain your income, as opposed to a 'passive' investment like stocks and shares, pension fund, savings account where you just sit back and earn interest without doing anything. It can be quite a stressful thing particularly if you are the kind of person that gets emotionally attached to bricks and mortar - it's great if you have the time and skills to do some of the management work yourself as this can save a lot of money and increase the profit margin, but if you aren't local or don't have a lot of knowledge then you'll need to buy this in professionally which can really eat further into your profit esp if you get unlucky with your property or tenants...

I guess one thing I say quite frequently to people considering BTL is to think carefully about why you really want to do it - bear in mind that if you already own a residential property you already have a substantial amount of your capital invested into the property market - if your current flat is in London then doubly so as it would be the same market, so yes if London booms you earn double rewards but if it crashes you lose everything. If you have access to a 25% deposit on a London flat I am guessing we are talking a 6 figure capital sum - do you definitely want to put all of that additional capital into a market you already are highly dependent on, or do you want to diversify and spread your risk/reward out a bit? Other forms of investment such as making additional pension contributions, buying into a managed investment fund (which will diversify your assets for you, you can choose or more or less risky strategy depending on your own risk appetite), buying government bonds can be more tax efficient, certainly easier than BTL, may have less potential reward but equally are much less risky. Or if it is the housing market you specifically want to invest in, why London, is it because you forsee higher growth in the property market there than the rest of the country, have you identified a particular area you are confident will see huge growth, or because you or your DC may want to live there in future and so you want to have a property available - those are good reasons so fair enough if so (although you could consider other more passive ways of investing into the property market rather than directly purchasing bricks and mortar, e.g. buying shares in property investment companies or house building companies), but if your reason is that BTL is really the only investment you've ever thought about/heard of (no shame, so it is for many) you would probably want to do more research before jumping in?

maxelly · 25/03/2021 12:12

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starchildmum · 25/03/2021 19:02

Thank tou so much maxelly.
I have been thinking exactly along these lines and it seems due to the large tax implications, yes 40% on rental income, yes tax when selling again, yes it could be a great asset to have still for DCs, that there are a lot of aspects on both sides. You mentioned the crucial points that it certainly is not the money making machine it once was and that there are many things to think about and to consider. It sadly poins into the direction - for me - to be a less attractive investment than it appeared at first ‘thought’.

Well lets see - maybe the future hold answers.

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murbblurb · 27/03/2021 10:58

there is no 'beginners guide' any more than there is to any other business.

I suggest lurking on landlordzone for a while. If you aren't put off by that, join the landlord's association and pay for a bit of training.

cataclysmiclife · 27/03/2021 11:01

I am an accidental landlord as couldn't sell my flat- all I'd say is getting a letting agent to fully manage is as I tried it myself and it was an absolute ball ache. And get landlord insurance too.

camsue · 27/03/2021 12:03

When we married we both owned our own homes. We rent out the smaller of our homes and to be honest I hate being a landlord. We've kept it as an investment and plan to sell to cover early retirement. I would however never recommend BTL as a means of generating income.

maggiethecat · 28/03/2021 23:44

Maxelly has given a lot of sound advice. I would add that unlike an accidental landlord this is something that you are actually interested in and therefore you should do the math and see if it is likely to be financially rewarding.

If you are coming up to the end of your current mortgage deal you could explore releasing some equity if you have made gains, to use for your investment property deposit although be mindful that increasing your loan to value ratio (LTV) on your current property may result in a higher interest rate. There is a balance to consider.

Like any investment you should be looking at longer term in order to weather market adjustments.

If the property were near you consider self manage if you are a hands on type of person. I get a Britsh Gas service contract covering heating, plumbing and electrics- I get free unlimited call outs for about £40/month and that includes the requisite annual gas safety certificate which you’d pay about £120 anyway. This has made a huge difference in management. Then you could deal with the other bits of management eg broken furniture, appliances.

If self management is not for you look at getting a property manager but shop around carefully- some out there are useless!

Good luck!

maggiethecat · 28/03/2021 23:49

It’s not “free” unlimited call outs - I should have said there are no additional charges for each visit unless there was an issue not covered by the contract

murbblurb · 29/03/2021 15:39

No one becomes a landlord by accident, you don't just randomly hand over the keys to your house! You may be a forced landlord because it isn't practical to sell or you can't take the price drop.

There are huge risks now with the eviction ban and backlog, and section 21 is on borrowed time.

maggiethecat · 29/03/2021 16:42

It’s obviously a very loose expression but intended to differentiate from those with clear intentions/desire to become a landlord.

pinkprosseco · 30/03/2021 02:18

We've just purchased one : our first. We won't make huge sums of money and in fact the first three months of rental we won't see a penny. We are 40 per cent tax payers and are paying a rental company as we are beginners to manage it but might do it ourselves in a few years. We have a small mortgage on interest only but we can make overpayments annually and plan to do so. We also now have to pay an accountant to sort out the tax returns. However we see it as a way of investing our capital which will hopefully grow long term, and making a small amount each month which is more than if we had the money in a savings account. We completed on the purchase and had tenants in four weeks later which was great but had we not we would also have had full council tax to pay on top of other monthly costs. If you're prepared not to make much money, particularly at first, and it's a long term plan it might be worth it. But lol carefully at all the costs.

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