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Euploid embryo didn't implant.. follow up appointmentment

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Piapea · 01/11/2025 09:29

Hi everyone,
I had a FET of an euploid embryo on October 10th and as the title says, it didn't implant.
I have a follow up appointment with my clinic next Friday. I'm a bit unsure about what to even ask the doctor. In reality they are not going to be able to give me much insight as to why it didn't implant.
I had a trigger shot as the at home ovulation tests have not picked up on my ovulation date correctly. This was what I did on my successful transfer and I wanted to stick closely to what I did before.
I'm going to transfer my last embryo at the beginning of next month and I really don't know what, if anything, can be changed or tweaked.
What do I even ask the doctor?
Any advice on what to ask or anecdotes on what worked for you frozen transfer would be much appreciated :)

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Waitingforday6 · 01/11/2025 10:16

I'm sorry to hear 😞 not speaking from experience yet but doing some research into FETs as I'm aiming for a transfer early next year. Hopefully someone else will be along with suggestions for the follow up appointment.

One thing you could look into if it's not something you are currently doing is probiotics, particularly various lactobacillus strains I believe. And maybe checking your vitamin D status and full thyroid panel if you haven't recently.

The below is more in the 'might as well, can't hurt' camp but I am sure I read somewhere that full fat dairy (not low fat!!) if it's something you consume/can tolerate has been linked to better IVF outcomes but I can't find that source now beyond people calling it a fertility superfood. And just including all those good foods in general. Really keeping my fingers crossed!!!

AlmostTime · 01/11/2025 10:44

I have no insight to share unfortunately but the same happened to me. It was our first transfer, also on 10th October. Everything was textbook. We were referred due to male factor 0% morphology which he managed to resolve to 7%!! While we waited for appointments up to egg collection.

Things were going really well, 7 eggs, 100% fertilisation. 4 made it to day 5, we carried out PGT-A testing and had 3 euploid embryos frozen.

Scan for lining was trilaminar with 8.4mm thickness.

First FET failed. I cannot accept this was bad luck.

I had my follow up this week and without prompting the consultant has made some revisions for next time.

They are starting me on Prontogest and Ultragestan ahead of FET. The last cycle I only took Ultragestan and started the prontogest on the evening of transfer.

When a small follicle and low progesteron uptake were reported in the last cycle I asked whether it was wise to proceed with FET as I would rather cancel and save the embryo than continue with the try and see approach some clinics seem to take. I was assured the follicle was not large enough to secreate levels of progesterone early enough to have clinical significance on my lining structure. My progesterone was within the acceptable range to proceed from ultragestan, they just felt based on recent research chances would be higher with an elevated level. But didn’t start it for a further 2 days.

My ‘day 1’ and starting of oestrogen on reflection I dont think set me up to succeed either. I had 5 days of spotting and ‘day 1’ fell on a Saturday, I spoke to the clinic on the day but the protocol didn’t start me on oestrogen until the Tuesday, 8 days after the spotting started . While the average says starting this anytime from day 2-4 of full flownis fine, I did grow a small follicle so clearly for me this didn’t align to suppress my ovaries correctly.

The consultant follow up was useful in that he admitted changes are needed for the next attempt at the end of November. However I did have to push hard for information.

We have 2 euploid embryos remaining and I do not want to waste them on experimental calibration of my regime to then find there are other issues we have never investigated. We were referred due to male factor, so there have been no investigations on my body past referal scans and bloods. The FET was also really complicated as it turns out I have an S bend in my cervix. This has never been discovered as ive had smear tests, but never an IUD so not something that was known until FET day. It took almost 40mins for them to get the (second) catheter through. I experienced a lot of cramping in the following days, which they tell me is probably progesterone. We will never know.

Oddly I was super chilled in the two week wait, which surprised me more than anyone. But I am confident I can safely rule out stress being a factor.

I asked what happens if a second FET fails and he said they would investigate my clotting and immune profile. I have arranged to have these bloods taken on Monday as I would prefer to spend £600 and be confident there are no other issues before we do another FET.

I feel for us the 0% morphology for my husband was just the beginning. It’s been a bit of a whirlwind week after a year of waiting to start ICSI/IVF to now be potentially starting investigations on me.

F37/M41

I think asking for next step options as a recommendation is a good course of action. They will have a protocol they have to follow, but there is nothing to stop you asking about the next, next step and making a decision on how to proceed.

My £600 of tests might be seen to be a waste to some, as I have none of the indications. But if it triggers further considerations we save wasting our emrbyos and have the opportunity to change our course.

Orangewillow · 05/11/2025 14:27

I'm sorry your FET didn't work, its really hard. My first one didn't work, I knew there was a reasonable chance it wouldn't (we were told 65% chance of it implanting) but still hard. After that I had a saline ultrasound scan which showed some scar tissue, which might have explained why my lining was a bit crap for the 1st FET so I had a hysteroscopy to sort that out. I also did a microbiome test and took various steps to improve that. 2nd FET was about 3 months after the first and it worked. I had my progesterone tested a lot as well and was on higher dose, plus in the 2nd FET I did IVF stims to grow my lining with my own oestrogen which worked better for me, the oestrogen tablets just didn't really work on me

AlmostTime · 06/11/2025 18:26

I have an update. My £600
gamble has paid off, I have elevated beta 2 glycoprotein antibodies. All other clotting is within range. Still waiting for the TH1/TH2 cytokine ratio results, but the consultant has confirmed he will prescribe Fragmin (LMWH) and asprin for my next cycle.

No guarantee this next one will implant, but I’m relieved to know this now as to find this out after another failed FET with only one remaining when it could have been avoided would have messed with my head.

Hopeandfaith1990 · 08/11/2025 12:48

Solidarity OP, this has happened to me too. Transferred a euploid in the summer and it failed. I’ve just had my next transfer today.

in between and in consultation with the doctors I:
• went through all my meds and evaluated the strength/need/effect etc
• had a hysteroscopy to check for any abnormalities etc
• changed protocol from fully medicated to natural modified FET
• added in Fragmin
• went through the timings of the next approx transfer
• stopped one of my recurrent miscarriage drugs because the consultant thought it was too strong

Obviously I’ve no idea if this has worked or helped yet, but it’s a few subtle changes. What has your consultant suggested?

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