Would you find a baby at a fertility clinic event hard?

[Butterbly]

I'm not sure if I'm just in the haze of ivf treatments
Today I went to a fertility/ family building event. It was some stands but mostly talks by a fertility clinic on treatment options for example an hour talk of iui medications and procedures etc and an hour on implications of ivf in a packed conference room (100+ people)
I've been sent a link to give some feedback.
I was surprised that a couple bought their baby along in a pram
The baby was fairly vocal (crying and chatting) which didn't feel right for any kind of indepth talk in that way so I would have taken it outside at that point. In breaks in the event, it was being walked along in the aisles, they were loudly playing with it
I think it's probably fair to feedback that I struggled to hear at points because of background noise, but is it also fair to say that it didn't feel like the right audience for a baby?

I completely agree with you, that feels pretty inappropriate as well as distracting! Of course they might be experiencing secondary infertility but it doesn't feel the right place to me to take a baby. I feel the same when I see kids in the waiting room at my IVF clinic!

Its difficult because I know they are often present in waiting rooms etc and equally the talks often talked about their own kids and experiences.
I don't want to be overly pedantic

yeah i know what you mean. It honestly depends what mood I'm in, today I'm bitter and grumpy haha.

Honestly I get where you are coming from and I would make every endeavour to not take our first to any appointments. It’s not just about secondary infertility though, women who have had ivf once are entitled to try for a second.

We have had fertility treatment for both our children and I was left with no childcare last minute when trying for our second, meaning I either had to take our 2 year old to a TV scan or abandon the whole cycle.. trust me when I say I would have preferred not to take her and felt completely awkward in the waiting room.

Your feelings are completely valid but I don’t think most would do it flippantly. I wish you success in your journey x

edited to add - in terms of the noise though, the staff at the clinic should have asked one of the parents to step outside whilst the baby settled if the parents hadn’t done that off of their own backs.

@Btowngirl that's totally fair, I'm just looking at everything through a 'why does everyone have a baby except me' lens, very much have tunnel vision there! If IVF ever works for us to have a 1st baby, I'd hope to have a crack at a 2nd and I get taking your 1st with you might be the only option. Thanks for your thoughtful & considered reply, I was probably a bit thoughtless in my comments (bad day here)

sometimes you need to allow yourself to have those days though hey! It’s probably just close to home for me too as I didn’t love it the day I took DD in. Hope you get your BFP soon ❤️

I think calling a baby “it” says what we need to know…

That the OP didn’t know the baby’s gender?

@Btowngirljust that the OP is angry and annoyed, probably not being very rational (which admittedly I’m not always either , when it comes to infertility) and being somewhat hateful towards a baby.
the pronoun “it” is used for inanimate objects. If you weren’t sure of someone’s gender at work, because the name is Sam (Samantha? Samuel?) would you say “what’s their full name?” Or “what’s its name?” ?
if someone says “my friend will come later” would you a) assume a gender and ask when is he coming, b) ask “when are they coming?” Or c) “when is it coming?”

Edit to add: I have uploaded a screen shot for your info which is awaiting approval.

Is English not your first language? It’s a really common turn of phrase to refer to a baby of unknown gender:

@Btowngirlenglish is my first language, and using “it” is highly disrespectful for any person, regardless of age.

In your opinion** which you’re completely entitled to. But I don’t think the use of very common language is a negative reflection of the OP who is also having a hard time. As you said you have bad days too around fertility, perhaps this is just something you feel passionate about. Personally it doesn't bother me at all. It didn’t read with any malicious intent unlike your unconstructive comment.