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To warn you against using the Agora clinic (Brighton)

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vardaverde · 04/09/2024 17:01

Hi everyone,

I've just posted on another thread about my terrible experience at the Agora clinic in Brighton and it got me thinking that I should really start a thread about it, just to try and raise awareness. (This is the other thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/infertility/5052522-agora-vs-lister-for-embryo-freezing)

Me and DH had a really difficult time there and find it very hard to go over it again and drag it up now that we have moved on to another clinic (The Lister), but I think it's important that people know how bad they are.

I tried to leave a Google review of the Agora, but because I put it under a different name (bc I didn't want to out myself as having had fertility treatment), the Agora accused me of writing a fake review and got it taken down. So this is really the only way I can think to tell people about my experience there.

I want to say firstly that I know there are plenty of people who have had a good experience there and I'm really glad. Perhaps for people who have more straightforward cases than ours. We have male factor fertility issues and were with the Agora for almost 4 years, so it was a very long slog. I imagine that if I had gotten pregnant within the first year, I might feel differently - so I do not refute anyone who says that they found them OK. This is just my experience.

We've now moved to the Lister and my experience there has been so, so different - I feel like my eyes have been opened to what this should have been like all along. The contrast is insane.

Me and my DH just found the Agora very cold, lacking empathy, disorganised and at times (more than once) incompetent in my care, to the extent it almost definitely impacted on our success rate. For example, being given the wrong dose of medication which almost certainly impacted my outcomes. I was also given an Ovitrelle trigger which caused OHSS multiple times. I've realised since being at the Lister and being offered a different trigger that the trigger was the cause - the Agora told me there was no other trigger I could have. My Lister consultant was 100% certain that it was the trigger (and it was) - whereas my Agora consultant didn't seem to even consider it. She just reduced my stims to the point where I got a very tiny number of eggs - and then gave me Ovitrelle again so I got OHSS anyway!

I was also left with massive bruises all over my arm from the sedative on egg collection (it should be straightforward to give a sedative, but I had huge bruises right up my forearm). No one else has ever struggled to get a sedative into me, and I have had quite a few.

Admin at various times lost our notes, got our names wrong, wrote our notes on the wrong record, told me personal information about another patient with the same first name as me, told me the wrong appointment time, gave me misinformation, and made me pay for tests I didn't need to pay for (hundreds of £ for a HyCoSy that was unnecessary, as well as tests you can get for free at the GP like chlamydia). The admin is absolutely horrendous and has no empathy, I have never seen anything like it.

If you are going to be a patient here, just make sure you can keep track of everything yourself and that you are strong and resilient enough to advocate for yourself, because you will need to.

You see a different person every time you go in (The Lister at least try to give you consistency and have the same person doing your scans). After multiple rounds of treatment, we had no one person assigned to look after us through the journey, no point of contact who knows what's going on for us, so we had to explain over and over every time as if they didn't know us. I felt like a number, not a person. The whole process was dehumanising and there was little if any recognition of the emotional impact of fertility treatment. They didn't even tell us that we were entitled to free counselling with our treatment package!

We had to advocate for ourselves so much, it was completely exhausting. Some of the nurses are nice, but the overall patient care and understanding of the patient journey is non-existant. Do not expect emotional support or empathy or even clinical competence. They are a business and they feel like one.

Honestly, being a patient at the Agora was one of the most traumatic experiences of my life. Infertility is difficult but the Agora made it so much harder.

If anybody would like to DM me about the Agora (or the Lister) please feel free. I am happy to chat.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/09/2024 17:04

That sounds like an awful experience - I hope things go better for you from now on.

vardaverde · 04/09/2024 17:18

Thank so much @SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius - I recently had my first egg retrieval at the Lister and can do nothing but sing their praises - the contrast is stark and I am feeling more positive.

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Missmarymack2 · 04/09/2024 19:16

@vardaverde this sounds like a dreadful experience. The thing is we are in such a vulnerable position choosing a clinic. And people are afraid to leave reviews. I would be the same as you about leaving one because I don’t want anyone knowing I’m having the treatment. I’m not in the uk but where I’m from it is not really regulated. When the whole thing costs so much it’s really unfair that there is not more transparency. The clinic I am in at the minute is super busy and you do feel like a number a lot of the time but at least they seem competent so here is hoping. I hope you have a better round this time.

vardaverde · 04/09/2024 21:44

Thanks @Missmarymack2 You are absolutely right about the vulnerable position and people being afraid to leave reviews.

I also think that people either get pregnant, or come to terms with being childfree, but either way, once it is all resolved, they don't want to dredge up the experience by warning others or talking about it more than they absolutely have to. I really believe it can be a form of trauma and you just want to move on.

The mere process of reviewing and giving feedback is extremely stressful, without all the other layers.

We've talked about whether to put in a complaint, but I just don't know whether I can stomach it. Whenever we have given any feedback to the Agora in the past, they simply get very defensive and deny/ minimise everything.

But I just feel so sorry for people who are at the start of their journey and looking at this clinic. I just want to shout "don't do it!"

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vardaverde · 04/09/2024 21:45

@Missmarymack2 Best of luck with your treatment too. It sounds like your clinic know what they are doing and that is a good start. Fingers crossed x

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Bluedream46 · 05/10/2024 12:30

@vardaverde Please can I message you? I am also at the Agora and having a horrible time. I thought it was just me and possibly I wasn't very emotionally resilient to the process but reading your experience has validated a lot of my feelings. My concerns feel continuously dismissed. Interestingly I also went to the Lister for miscarriage tests and contemplating changing clinics. Our situation is pretty complicated. I would be so grateful if you are happy to speak as I feel very alone.

vardaverde · 08/10/2024 23:46

Bluedream46 · 05/10/2024 12:30

@vardaverde Please can I message you? I am also at the Agora and having a horrible time. I thought it was just me and possibly I wasn't very emotionally resilient to the process but reading your experience has validated a lot of my feelings. My concerns feel continuously dismissed. Interestingly I also went to the Lister for miscarriage tests and contemplating changing clinics. Our situation is pretty complicated. I would be so grateful if you are happy to speak as I feel very alone.

Hi there @Bluedream46 Of course you can message me! I'm sorry you have had a similar experience. You are definitely not alone x

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vardaverde · 20/11/2025 10:19

Just bringing this thread back up to date.

I now have my baby after transferring to the Lister.

I got pregnant there on the first try after 5 years of inept treatment at the hands of the Agora.

Since posting this thread I've had multiple messages from other people having bad experiences at the Agora. They appear to monitor online reviews and try to get any bad reviews taken down, so this is one of the only ways I can share my experience. The Google reviews are heavily skewed.

My husband and I still feel traumatised by our treatment at the Agora and would strongly warn anyone against using them. Happy to message with anyone who wants to discuss.

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blacksnow · 20/11/2025 16:21

massive congrats

SarahAndQuack · 20/11/2025 19:18

Congratulations on your baby.

Did you ever get anywhere with formal complaints?

My clinic (not the Agora) did some egregiously awful things; I won't post about them because we are mid-complaint but I'd love to know how it went for someone else following that process. I recently put in a complaint to the clinic itself and got back a reply full of excuses/non-apologies/factual mistakes, and I think my next port of call is QCQ or HFEA.

It's really sad to feel we have to do this, but it's awful if places get away with poor quality or even harmful treatment. The GDPR breaches are especially worrying!

vardaverde · 24/11/2025 07:37

@SarahAndQuack We never made a formal complaint, mostly for the reasons you are experiencing.

We knew they would push back every step of the way and it would be an uphill battle of collecting evidence for every little thing (which we didn't have, partly because of their terrible records and email system which deletes everything after a few weeks!)

I made a subject access request and half of the stuff wasn't even there.

Honestly, I just couldn't face the battle. I just wanted to move on. I know that's how these things continue but I just can't do it.

I did write a Google review, which got removed because it was anonymous (but who writes a review of a FERTILITY CLINIC outing themselves with their full name??) and I wrote this post here - that's about all I can manage.

I'm really glad that some people are able to take the process further - all the best with it - I really hope you get somewhere!! x

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SarahAndQuack · 24/11/2025 09:16

I'm so sorry to hear that. Absolutely understand you not wanting the stress! It's really important just to do what you can manage.

I hope I get somewhere too! Grin

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