10 years of recurrent miscarriage, ICSI, now natural miscarriage

[cluefu]

I wasnt sure which board to post in as my situation spans a few really. Also not sure what I'm asking, suppose I'm hoping to find some comfort amongst people who can relate.

I'm almost 43 and DH have tried for a baby for almost 10 years now. In that time we had 1 chemical pregnancy 9.5 years ago a d the. 5 failed rounds of ICSI, the majority resulted in positive pregnancy tests but no heartbeat at subsequent scans 6/7 weeks.

I have low AMH and DH has had mixed sperm results.

By the end of 2018 we decided that was enough and started to accept it wasnt going to happen. Tried to enjoy life and stopped tracking everything. Still a healthy sex life but no positive tests.

Until the beginning of this month. I was shocked to have a very late period and then positive tests. Was given steroids, progesterone and blood thinners by recurrent miscarriage clinic.

Sadly, I have started bleeding with clots and cramps this weekd so i know it's over and have been preparing for that anyway (as best you can when also trying to be hopeful). My scan is on Tuesday so I know that will be a case of ensuring thers nothing to be concerned about, not hoping for a miracle.

Last year we'd finally decided to explore adoption and by Christmas, we were really starting to feel excited about the future. I'm just so shocked, confused, sad, angry.

How can this have happened now after all this time? And do we have a hope of a biological or is my age and history enough to say no. I know people have babies at 43 but our history makes me think it's just not feasible.

Has anyone had a similar experience?

I am so sorry to hear about your losses. I have had 2 natural pregnancies. One was mmc and the other lost after seeing a heartbeat at 7 weeks. I had IVF and had a fresh transfer last May, tested positive but nothing was seen in the scan couple of weeks later. Did you have any investigations done on your recurrent miscarriages?

@mrsmb03 thanks so much and I'm sorry for your experiences as well.

I had some investigation as part of my treatment in Czech Republic but after spending so much time and money, we haven't done any further private testing. Was hoping a combination of prednisone and blood thinners would solve it.

I think perhaps his sperm and my eggs combined, just must not have been massively compatible in the first place. Too many variables.

Just so strange to have got this recent pregnancy after not a sniff of a natural conception in 9.5 years!

Wishing you well on where you're up to on your journey too.

Thank you. Did the clinic in the Czech Republic say anything of the cause? I am getting treatment from an acupuncturist and she said most recurrent miscarriages may be due to clotting, was that the case that is why you were in blood thinners. I had FET and my clinic won't give me heparin. My acupuncturist said I should push for it.

Are you going to try again?

@mrsmb03 the Czech clinic couldn't see an obvious cause. They did test one of the embryos prior to transfer / freezing and couldn't see anything at that point.

It was the Czech clinic that recommended the blood thinners though and then I was able to access that from the NHS too. Their phrase was 'sticky blood', can still remember that quite well.

So I would push for it. I don't know if baby asprin is similar, I've not had that.

I don't think we will be trying again. With my age and the adoption process, it seems like a destructive thing to do. Also, we've been having regular unprotected sex for 10 years. I don't think a successful natural pregnancy is possible for me and we're not going down the IVF route again.

If affordable, I would absolutely recommend the ReProfit clinic in Brno, Czech Republic.

@cluefu I'm sorry that you're going through this. Life can be very cruel.

@Fluorescentgem thank you for your reply 💐

Could I just ask please. Did they give you blood thinning medication and aspirin without the test and before proven that you have clotting issues?

I just want to ask because my clinic is now saying there is a risk in taking aspirin before 12 weeks (I am 5 weeks plus 4 days today) that it can affect the fetus. I don't know how big of a risk it is though they agreed as per my request for me to have blood thinners and aspirin.

They also said that they usually don't give these 2 medication because I haven't been tested in the NHS and that it was not proven that I have clotting issues because I haven't been investigated.

When I asked my acupuncturist about the risk, she gave me a passive aggressive reply and said she is not a doctor etc etc It was her that advised me. Obviously one should check medications before taking them so I am so stressed now.

Good luck for tomorrow. I hope you will have the strength and peace of mind to face whatever the outcome. Sending ❤️ and peace of mind.

P.S.

We may also look into adoption but my husband says we won't qualify as too old. He is 54 and I 44.

@mrsmb03 I don't think I was given asprin in previous pregnancies (and definitely not this recent one), just blood thinning injections, steroids and folic acid.

I can't fully remember the order of events but I think the clinic in Czech Republic first identified the sticky blood. They did a lot more testing than the NHS recurrent miscarriage clinic which makes sense.

I could be wrong though and perhaps NHS had also picked it up. But this time I was automatically given the blood thinners so presumably once it's picked up, they just give it again.

Thank you for the message. I guess hoping to hear that there's no infection or anything else that needs to happen now.

I had previously heard that 50 was the upper age limit for adoption but readi g through some of the adoption boards, I don't think that's the case anymore. It took me a while to get to the point where we wanted to explore it but I'm glad we're on the path now, early stages, minus this strange diversion.

Good luck to you too 💐

Ps I also have an underactive thyroid although don't think that's connected to the blood thinners. I know that lots of women take baby asprin automatically but I couldn't say if that's something you should do, when is your scan?

Thank you. My scan is on the 9th. Sometimes, I think best not to think about all of this and just carry on as normal but really hard thing to do. I made a separate post asking for advise. How did it go today?

@mrsmb03 Thanks asking. The scan and subsequent blood test confirmed that there is no pregnancy and silver lining, no further appointments or surgery needed.

Where is your post?

Thank you for replying.

I am 😞 sorry.

I wish you well going forward with the adoption. You will be amazing parents and your child will be very lucky to have you.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/infertility/4996298-starting-blood-thinners-and-aspirin-5w4-ivf-pregnancy?reply=132620481

Please take care.