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2ww

33 replies

kjbubblez · 22/03/2023 11:02

Hi
I was wondering if anyone else is in their 2ww. I am trying to keep myself occupied - I am 6dp5dt. I am on 2x400mg of cyclogest a day.

I am trying to stay positive. 🤞

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Lyrabee · 22/03/2023 23:17

Hey!
Also in my tww but I'm only 2dp5dt. Had my transfer on Monday.
How are you feeling? I'm on the cyclogest too and mostly I'm tired with really sore boobs!

kjbubblez · 23/03/2023 02:22

Hi Lyrabee.

My boobs are so sore too 😳😫🤣 I'm feeling tired too but then waking up in the middle of fhe night.

I'm not sure If I'm getting period pains or it's cyclogest being a devil. I've never used cyclogest before .
Will you test early. I don't think I will be as I want to be in this bubble of no knowing - even though its killing me!!

Good luck 🤞 x

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Lyrabee · 23/03/2023 07:09

I've never used it before either! Pretty sure it's giving me all the period symptoms. I'm waking up a lot too which is frustrating.
My clinic was very specific about waiting the 2 weeks, I know I've seen people testing early and they've gotten bfps but I think it will stress me out more doing that! If I test early it will only be by a couple of days.
When is your test date? Mine is 3rd April
All the luck to you x

kjbubblez · 23/03/2023 13:13

I feel really angry and I'm so short with everyone but I try not too be!

My test date is 27th so not long really now but feels like a life time away.
If this doesn't work I've got 1 frozen embryo left.

I've had such crazy dreams the last few nights too I wonder if it's the cyclogest. 😫

I hope your keeping busy today 💜

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Lyrabee · 24/03/2023 21:42

Oooh not too long to wait at all! When did you transfer? Is it your first transfer?

I have all my fingers crossed for you!

kjbubblez · 25/03/2023 10:09

Morning.
My transfer was the 16th, its my third one - all my symptoms I felt I had which I thought were possibly from the cyclogest have all disappeared - I've got it in my head that it hasn't worked. I feel like my period is coming. I'm going to test tomorrow- a day earlier than the clinic have said as I have work Monday and want to have a day to process the outcome.

How are you getting on? Sending positive vibes to you xx

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Natalie1912 · 26/03/2023 22:01

Hi. I hope you don't mind me joining. This is my second fresh transfer I am 4dp5dt. My test day is next Sunday. My boobs are also very sore from cyclogest and I am very tired. I am 35 same as my husband. We have unexplained infertility. Only had 3 eggs (out of 13 follicles no idea why so little) and only had one early blastocyst. Nothing frozen. Our last attempt on nhs. Already had one failed cycle in September. Praying for miracle for all of us.

Lyrabee · 27/03/2023 12:25

Hi @Natalie1912 welcome!

The sore boobs are so annoying - I feel you! I also have really greasy skin and have cramps today.
It's good your test day isn't too far away now, try not to test early and give yourself something nice everyday to keep you going!
Is this transfer from your first collection or did you have to do it all again? What happened with your first transfer if you don't mind me asking?

I'm on my first transfer, we had a nice number of embryos so have frozen a couple but we've gone private as the NHS still haven't come back to us. We have male factor infertility and have done all the tests privately so we know ICSI is our only way forwards and the NHS are just taking so long :(

I have all my fingers crossed for you, stay positive because it only takes one to work :)

Lyrabee · 27/03/2023 12:27

@kjbubblez oh have you tested? How was it?

I still have to wait until next Monday but I'm holding out. My symptoms come and go except for the sore boobs.

Today I've got cramp which feels very period like but we will see. Fingers crossed for you x

Natalie1912 · 27/03/2023 18:02

Do you know what I don't think I will test early because not knowing makes me happier. I have just seen so many negative pregnancy tests in my life already and now at least I still have hope that it might have worked.

Yes of course you can ask me anything. Had to do it all over again. My first round I had 6 eggs 4 fertilised but we only had 1 blastocyst which didn't take at all. I started bleeding 3 days before official test day. I gave myself 6 months where I was eating really healthy (slimming world) did acupuncture for 3 months before started taking different supplements. Been going for a nice long walks every day. Thinking all of this is going to improve my chances. I had 6 eggs last time which I was slightly disappointed. All of my results are completely normal so when I hear some women have 15-20 eggs I was hoping for better outcome next time. This is our last attempt on nhs so I felt like I really tried. Had 13 follicles which I was happy with but they only got 3 eggs this time. You can imagine I cried all.day after egg collection. All 3 fertilised but we only had one early blastocyst. I feel like the whole cycle didn't go well at all and I don't know why. I lfeel like I tried really hard. We have not even used the option to freeze any because we had none left. Everything is fine with my husband too so we have just been unlucky last 4 years. I understand why you went privately. We started trying when I was 31 and had first ivf at 34. Nhs super slow it took 4 years ( covid didn't help). ICSI is a great way to overcome issues with sperm so fingers crossed for you it will work:) I am praying that little embryo will make it this time. If not I will try soon again bit this time will have to pay. Can I ask which clinic did you use and how much did you pay? How long have you been trying if you dont mind me asking? Praying for both of us:)

Lyrabee · 27/03/2023 19:05

@Natalie1912 aw lovely it's such a physical and emotional trek, sounds like you've been quite unlucky with things so far but that doesn't mean this time won't be lucky so try not to dwell on it too much (I know it's super hard).
I genuinely don't think there is a right way to do things anymore, everyone does different and reacts differently it's all just so uncertain with it. Did you use the same drugs both times?
I just couldn't wait any more to start. I'm 34 and my husband is 33 which I know is still young but also I don't want to be trying for all of my 30s and my brain can't help but catastophise it all, especially at this age when it feels like everyone gets it naturally!
We started trying late 2021 so in reality it hasn't been as long as most people, the NHS would have insisted on us keep trying but because we had all our tests done privately on insurance we knew it wasn't going to work.
We've gone with Care Fertility in Manchester as a colleague used them and had good feedback. We've paid for 3 rounds and get 100% back if they don't work so that plan is £14k but doesn't include drugs which were £1.5k. Luckily, I sold my flat last year so that's paid for it. I think when we worked it all out, it's about 6.5k for ICSI. It was a little cheaper to get IVF.
If you do need to go privately at least you could ask for ICSI. What tests did you have done on the NHS?

Natalie1912 · 29/03/2023 17:40

Tho whole journey is so hard. We have used the same drugs but higher dose which again I would think I would produce more eggs. So really unlucky don't know what happened. And I am 34 ( just about to turn 35 in 2 months) I also think this is the age to get pregnant while I have some energy left 😁 I was looking at those refunds programmes I think that will be the way forward for us if it doesn't work out this time. I had test for ovulation done no issues there. I also had hycosy done( both tubes clear) amh test I think my level was around 11.5 normal. I also had my thyroid checked.i think this is all the tests for me. Have you had any more? When is your test day? Mine is this Sunday getting close

Lyrabee · 29/03/2023 18:09

All the same tests! That hycosy was the worst for me it was so painful but everything was fine. I think my AMH was like 12.5.
Our issues are my husbands sperm doesn't have much mobility. We were very lucky with how smooth everything has been with our cycle tbh.
My official test day is Monday. I did a test this morning and it was negative so not touching them now until Monday when I'll use the one the clinic gave me.
The refund programmes are good and at least give the peace of mind that you get your money back and can try elsewhere as frustrating as that is.

Natalie1912 · 30/03/2023 08:43

I was so worried about hycosy because I am not good with pain at all ( I mean at all!😊) but I haven't even felt it. But was reading horror stories before. My husband have to go on business trip unexpectedly this weekend ( great timing) he is leaving tonight so we decided to test together this morning. 8dp5dt which was negative. Do you think it is just too early and it could be positive on Sunday?

Natalie1912 · 30/03/2023 09:43

So is it only 14k refundable? The drugs like you said are extra to pay but if unsuccessful they are not refundable?

Lyrabee · 30/03/2023 11:06

I wouldnt count yourself out yet. Mine was negative on 9days and we've just been telling ourselves we were given an official date for a reason so won't teat again now until then but mine is Monday- so weird how the dates are different.
Yeah the drugs aren't refundable only the 14k which covered the various scans, EC, transfer, follow up scans and freezing. We have 3 years to have 3 cycles.

TunicFox · 30/03/2023 11:56

Hi, I'm in my tww as well. Currently on day 3 and already struggling! How are you doing @k@kjbubblez?

I've used cyclogest before, found I got a lot of side effects and it really messes with you as they are also pregnancy symptoms.

I was given it for this cycle but I'm not using it as it messes with my body and my moods so much (and there's no clinical need for me, it was just for an extra boost).

Natalie1912 · 01/04/2023 07:08

The test day is getting close. Mine is tomorrow. Yours day after I think. Thank you for the info on the prices. I still not had my period which i consider a small victory too. ( last cycle I started bleeding 3 days before OTD.) I can't wait for tomorrow but also I enjoy not knowing at the same time because there is a possibility that I might be pregnant 😊 how are you feeling?

Lyrabee · 01/04/2023 10:26

@Natalie1912 yeah mine is monday!

I've started getting brown blood when I wipe now, it started last night and there was more this morning. I'm trying not to think about it and hopefully it's just the pessaries aggravating my cervix.

How are you feeling today?

Natalie1912 · 01/04/2023 10:44

I have seen so many thread's where this is caused by pessaries so don't loose hope until the test.i am really anxious husband is away so just alone with my phone which is not good. Spend the morning looking at ttc forum's. I think I will go shopping and try to take my mind off ivf for a bit. I am just really dreading seeing negative tomorrow. I want this to work so much.

Lyrabee · 01/04/2023 13:52

@Natalie1912 I have those times too where you just can't stop and get off your phone. Try putting it in another room for an hour so you can just do something for you! I've tried to keep busy today but I'm knackered. I keep doing odd chores then sitting and reading a chapter of my book.

Get yourself something nice if you do go out, even if it's just a bit of cake :)

Natalie1912 · 01/04/2023 15:16

Okey I bought a bit more than a cake 😊 now I feel guilty because I spent a lot of money which I might need for ivf soon. Oh that's tomorrow's problem. Shopping is relaxing and it did distracted me for a bit. Roll on tomorrow.

Lyrabee · 01/04/2023 18:19

@Natalie1912 don't worry about it! You deserve it, its not an easy process 🧡

Natalie1912 · 01/04/2023 21:34

It's so hard I am already so emotional. I miss the person I was before ivf.

Lyrabee · 01/04/2023 23:05

@Natalie1912 oh my lovely, my heart goes out to you. You're never alone in all of this I promise. It's such a horrible process - have you told friends and family what's going on? I've spoken to a few people and now I get a lot of sympathy looks which was not was I was aiming for at all! Most people I've told though have been so very supportive, it's made the process easier for me