ERA/EMMA/ALICE Testing thread 4

[Janefx40]

New thread ladies! @Gardenlady543 @MyEasterEggs @seven201 @VenusStarr @Violette22 @Yuliaaa

Eat the chocolate @seven201 definitely eat it!!! and enjoy it.
Congratulations on being pupo 🥰🥰

My lining today was way off what I would like. My consultant is away for the bank holiday. The on duty doctor says to go ahead. Not sure whether to trigger anyway and wait to decide whether to cancel on Monday when my consultant is back. Would this ruin my chance of going straight into a medicated FET if I did? Or would there be no loss?

DP and I have decided not to go ahead. So nice to have his input. He said, and I agree, my lining is about the only thing we usually have going for us so we'd be fools to go ahead when that isn't right.

Ugh.

Sorry to have been self centred.

Enjoy your chocolate @seven201 and go @VenusStarr

Love to everyone else xxx

I ate the chocolate 🍫. No regrets!

Sounds like the right decision @Janefx40. What did it measure at today?

@Violette22 I am so sorry. Any updates? Did you manage to speak to the clinic?

@seven201 fingers crossed 🤞 for you! Enjoy that chocolate! No regrets! 💜

@Janefx40 I would have done the same if I had felt unsafe. xx

@VenusStarr I will look through my files and let you know. They were both short protocols. I know that the second round I was put on a higher dose of stims and I didn't do an HCG trigger (my E2 level was a bit high), but the follicles growth was uneven. At my last scan before trigger I had 15+ follicles of different sizes (some were too large already) but they only managed to get 7, which in my opinion didn't seem right. I remember waking up from the EC and feeling disappointed at the numbers. I expected more than that. 5 fertilized and became the two BFNs.
I've been thinking about mild IVF too and I might go and ask for a second opinion.

@Yuliaaa I think even follicle size is really important in IVF. Even when you do get eggs from a wide variety of sizes of follicles, in my cases, they haven't had good fertilisation rates. My best cycles are when they have all been within 2-4mm of each other in size.

My consultant got in touch with the nurse (on his day off so I am grateful). He said to take the trigger and we will scan tomorrow and Saturday and then take a decision then based on the lining. I was happier in a way when we had decided to stop but given that this is my own consultant, I think we will follow his advice. It was also nice that DP and I had made the decision together and now this has changed things. But we shall see.

@seven201 congrats on being PUPO, I eat dark chocolate all the time! I actually start each day off with a cacao vegan milkshake!

@Janefx40 it sounds like a very stressful day for you! I hope you get some reassurance in the early part of next week so you know what's happening.

Oh dear @Violette22 how stressful, I hope you can get in touch with someone and get a scan booked in to see what's going on.

@Yuliaaa it sounds like it's worth looking into immune stuff, I have never been pregnant either and I think this is pretty rare.

I’ve been thinking of you all and reading the feed, I’m sorry to hear so many of you are still having a tough time. I’d just been too scared to write anything hoping for the best. Everything had been going so well finally with the Tacrolimus, I’m 6 weeks tomorrow and had my first scan booked. My HCG levels had been great too. But without any warning I’ve had hugely heavy bleeding and just like that it’s all gone. Again. I can’t even comprehend this pain. This feels like the end of the line and the hopelessness is awful. Sending love to you all and happier news xxx

@StillTrying10000 I am so sorry to hear this 😥. It is so unfair and all the emotional pain caused by recurrent losses are so hard to deal with. Will you have your scan anyway? Hematomas can also cause really big bleeds, so I think it would be worth checking the situation out 💜

@Janefx40 wow you have had a lot of things going on, please update us on your today's scan 💙. So nice of your doctor to take care of the situation on his free day.

@Yuliaaa How have you been coping mentally these past few days? Sending you hugs 💛

@seven201 Congrats on your transfer, keeping everything crossed for you😊. Will you have a hcg or test at home?

@VenusStarr @Gardenlady543 thinking of you 💛

I had a scan today and against all odds it is good news. No reason for the bleed found and baby measuring 8+5 just like it should💙. I couldnt believe what we saw on the screen Im telling you. I was totally prepared for bad news going to the clinic. I lost 100% of my symptoms and at the same time started to bleed red. The bleeding has continued mostly brown but last night also red.

My doctor wants me to stop my vaginal lactobacillus at this point since he thinks it might irritate the cervix. He said that at this point the placenta has taken so much of the job that the lactobacillus shouldnt matter. Im a bit worried about stopping them. I can continue the orals ones though (2 x day). @Gardenlady543 any thoughts?

@StillTrying10000 I'm so sorry to hear this. This is just devastating. It just feels sometimes like we get repeatedly punched in the face. We keep getting up and trying to move forward and then they punch us in the face again. Sending you so much love. 💐💐

@Violette22 I'm so pleased about your good scan. We are all getting battered and it helps to have one little glimmer of hope. When is your next one? Your Doctor is away now for a while isn't he?

I'm waiting for my scan now. In a way I'm hoping the lining is still rubbish as I definitely want to cancel now. My brother is a coach and he said I have total clarity of purpose which is not to have regrets if this fails. That means we have to cancel this cycle because we will always have regrets otherwise and wonder if we should have

@StillTrying10000 I am so sorry this is happening to you. I've been thinking about you and have hoped that everything turned out ok. This is so unfair and sad. I am sending you lots of love ❤️

@Violette22 I am happy to hear the things are ok, but I am gutted you have to go through all this heartache and anxiety. It has such a huge impact on your mental stability. 💗
I am fine, I am still in shock and I can't process what has happened. I feel like I can't grieve properly.

@Janefx40 how was the scan? I think you should whatever makes you feel safe. If it doesn't, then don't.

Oh @StillTrying10000 I am so sorry to hear this. I really hope that the bleeding is nothing sinister. Your mind just goes into overdrive. Are you having your scan with crp or at the ivf clinic. I'm thinking of you and sending so much love ❤️

@Janefx40 it's so hard. I think if you have any doubts it's better to hold off. I think the fact you and your dh decided together is a positive thing as you have said before he's been a bit more hands off. Let us know how the scan goes.

@Violette22 I'm so pleased you had a positive scan. I hope the bleeding goes.

@Yuliaaa ❤️❤️

2 days after trigger, we've done all we can. Dh is released from the schedule! 😅 My temp is slowly increasing. I'm supposed to take pred and cyclogest from today, but I'm going to wait and see what my temp is like tomorrow as its still fairly low for me. But I think my tsh is probably the culprit. I'm definitely on the rise though.

Sending love to all, this journey is so so hard and I'm so sorry that we all seem to be experiencing difficulties xx

@StillTrying10000 oh my goodness. How absolutely awful. Has it been confirmed as a loss?

@Violette22 wow. What a relief. I think stopping the vaginal Suppositories is a good idea.

@Janefx40 how did the scan go? Did you cancel?

@VenusStarr well done to you and dp on passing the fertile window!

@Yuliaaa been thinking of you and you @Gardenlady543

I'm feeling quite flat today. I've not wanted to do much so all is calm after transfer, but now feel like we've wasted the jubilee celebrations. I want to be out drinking wine and eating amazing cake. I'm finding all I'm thinking about is cake. Maybe I just make my own cake and enjoy it! Problem is if you Google what to do in the ivf tww it often says avoid sugar. I am quite fed up of this being my life. Sorry, ignore my self pity, I'm being ridiculous, again!

Thank you all for your kind words🧡

Im just a bot worried about stopping them since we never got a result regarding if my lactobacillus has improved or not (first test showed 0% lactobacillus). Our second Emma test said "ultralow biomass with a profiili compatible with normal endometrium". So they couldnt give any percentages and even after emailing them my doctor didnt get any wiser about what that "ultralow biomass" meant. But I guess Ill just have to obey doctor's advice.

@seven201 I would just eat the cake if I was you ☺

@VenusStarr nice to hear that dh can now take a break 😅 did you already start the meds or tomorrow?

@Yuliaaa Grieving isnt always easy for me either. Sometimes it is hard for me to separate between being sad and angry, they get so mixed and then it is so hard to find a way to release those emotions.

@Janefx40 how did your scan go?

@StillTrying10000 thinking of you 🧡🧡

It's fine to stop @Violette22, take the oral ones, it's probably best to avoid vaginal medication where possible. That's good news on the reassuring scan.

@seven201 relaxing away from crowds sounds ideal to me! We all make so many sacrifices with things we like though don't we :( the whole world don't seem to do this and do ok.

Congrats on making it through the fertile window @VenusStarr 🎉

@Janefx40 how was the scan, I think we have to find a balance between listening to the experts but as this is your last embryo you need to make sure you feel comfortable.

@StillTrying10000 are you ok, when is the scan?

I'm sorry you're feeling flat @seven201 I hope you had the cake?? Try not to get too caught up in the things you think you should be doing. Some sugar is fine and won't be harmful. The tww is a bit of a mind🤬 so however helps you get through each day will be good ❤️

@Violette22 starting the meds tomorrow morning, testday is a week on Monday 🤞 I do the gcsf injection next Thursday.
Hope you're feeling OK

@Janefx40 how are you this evening?

Thinking of you @StillTrying10000 ❤️ I hope the bleeding has stopped xxx

Thank you so much everyone. Scan on Monday 8am at CRP with Mr Jan. Hoping for a miracle but terrified. I’m still bleeding, it’s kinda like normal period now but no more clots, just blood. I’m scared to move!

@Janefx40 how did your scan go?
@Yuliaaa I’m so sorry you didn’t get a positive, you are amazing for waiting for so long.
@Violette22 that’s such wonderful news! I’m so pleased for you. I hope you can relax at least for a few days!
Thinking of you too @Gardenlady543 are you doing okay?
@VenusStarr Im really hoping this is the month for you! 🤞My temps have been all over the place this month even though HCG is good. I’m doing twice weekly medicheck blood tests now, only making my testing addiction even more expensive ha!
@seven201 the TWW is just the worst! Are you an early tester or will you wait until OTD?

@StillTrying10000 I'm glad you're booked in for early Monday. What a long wait it will feel though. Will be thinking of you this weekend.

I normally just don't test on a work day so bring it forward just a little. My clinic does home pregnancy test 13 days after transfer. Test day is a Wednesday and also my dc's birthday, so I think I'll test on the Monday (day off). Maybe I'll cave sooner this time.

Hi everyone

Scan showed lining increased a bit but not enough. I explained it to the sonographer and he actually finally agreed with me although of course it doesn't really matter if he agrees or not. But it's nice to get some understanding. I'm being scanned again tomorrow but will refuse to go ahead anyway. My consultant isn't actually in until Monday now but I would be due to start progesterone and pred on Sunday and won't do that so effectively the decision is made.

I think I want to try again next cycle and if the issue is the same (which it may be as this will be my third light period month in a row) then click into medicated on day 21 for an August transfer.

@StillTrying10000 I'm so sorry about all the bleeding. I am hoping for a miracle on Monday too 🤞🏼🤞🏼

@seven201 eat cake!! But also the jubilee celebrations really aren't all that. I mean it is nice to see a few people but it's hardly the party to end all parties! There will be others. I'm trying to say that you're not missing that much!

@VenusStarr eeeekk. Glad you've told DH to "stand down" hee hee couldn't resist that one. I'm going to consider you PUPO too!!!

@Violette22 I'm sorry I don't know much about it but totally trust @Gardenlady543 advice.

So much love to you alll!!!

@StillTrying10000 I've got everything crossed for you for Monday's scan ❤️❤️

@Janefx40 I'm glad you're happy with your decision, it does sound like the best option at the moment. Sorry you've had go have so many scans though!

My test day is next Monday (12 days after trigger). Dh has the day off, so will just do it together and at least he'll be with me. @seven201 you'll be 11dt then won't you? 🤞

Did our lovely friend cyclogest this morning and started pred. Dh said that's a lot of tablets... took me bloody ages to load up my pill boxes for the week! My temp today is my post-ov so pretty certain I have ovulated now, so felt better taking progesterone.

On a lighter note, we've watched all of Stranger Things, really enjoyed it. Just got a long wait now until the last 2 episodes in July. But if you like horror-creepy, it's probably up your street. This one is definitely darker than previous series. Think I'm going to start from episode 1 to keep me busy as there's loads I've forgotten! 🙃

Thank you every one for being so supportive 🤗

@Gardenlady543 I feel a lot vetter about stopping the lactobacillus after reading you think it is OK. Thank you so much ❤

@VenusStarr @seven201 you have almost the same timeline with the two week wait! Keeping my fi gets crossed for both of you 💛

@StillTrying10000 how are you coping? How is the bleed now? Im glad you have a scan first thing on Monday💜.

@Janefx40 I think you made a wise decision, it is importany that you can feel confident with whatever decision you make, this is your life afterall 💪

I hope you are having a relaxing weekend @Gardenlady543 @Yuliaaa

It turned out my doctors schedule for first days aftrr his holiday was already full and our scan is on 16th...this would be almost a 2 weeks break after our scan yesterday. I know it doesnt sound like much but I dont know if I can manage that long. I will see how I feel next week and then if necessary book a scan with someone else.

Sorry for the typos in my previous message😳they are due to the Finnish auto correct.

@VenusStarr I think we may be testing on the same day then . I'm scared already. Well done on getting going on the meds. This was my first cycle taking prednisolone and it's been surprisingly fine for me. I do have a massive whopper of a bruise from one harmless little clexane injection - nurse said I must have got a capillary. I now make my dh help fill up my pill boxes. I also made myself a new spreadsheet last night so I don't forget anything!

@Janefx40 does it feel 'right' to have officially cancelled now (I'm assuming you have).

@Violette22 sorry you'll have to wait longer than hoped.

@VenusStarr @seven201 nice that you can be 2WW pals.

Yes I'm glad to have now officially cancelled. I am, of course, concerned that we may not be able to correct the lining. Why will next month be different.

@Violette22 let us know if you do book another scan. Glad you are reassured about the lacto

@Gardenlady543 love to you of course

@StillTrying10000 thinking of you

@Yuliaaa hope you're ok xxx

@Janefx40 if the lining is the issue and you are unmedicated then you'll need to go to medicated, it's really annoying to switch especially after having the ERA, but you need to do what's best for the lining. I don't know what I'll do as I was speaking about going to other way moving from medicated to unmedicated, but my lining may not be good enough.