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IVF / FET March/April 2022

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AliceAbsolum · 12/01/2022 20:56

Thought I'd start a thread for those starting rounds in the next few months.

I'm 36. TTC for 6 years. This will be my 4th transfer. It's a double embryo FET in Cyprus.

Welcome welcome 😁

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LT103 · 10/03/2022 13:50

Thanks @AliceAbsolum @HJen22 I’ve been fine all the way through just worrying now!
Norethisterone stopped last night and already started spotting 🙈. I’m surprised I didn’t spot more all the way through. Just waiting on period now then stims start on Monday!!

HJen22 · 11/03/2022 11:50

@LT103 @PMAmostofthetime how are you ladies? Hope AF arrives for you both and stims get started Monday 🤞🏻

How is everyone else? Xx

Kittyyy85 · 11/03/2022 13:50

Hey ladies! Sorry I've been quiet, bit of a rubbish week for me! Definitely will be pleased to see the back of it!

Welcome to all of the newbies to the group! Hope everyone's okay?!

@AliceAbsolum how's Sunny Larnaca? When do you get started with your FET?

@HJen22 how are you lovely? I'm so pleased they managed to get to your other ovary! I knew they'd be able to!! They may have only found a couple of small follies but you'll be surprised how fast they can grow!!! How are stims going for you and when are you finished? Are you okay?

@LT103 has your period come full flow today? And @PMAmostofthetime any sign of yours yet? Sod's law that it's decided to take its time this month for you! Only a matter of time though!

I started spotting on Tuesday night and got excited because it marks the end of my failed cycle. I just want the hormones out of me now, but since then I've just been spotting! It hasn't come full flow.

Also, I've developed uveitis over the last 24 hours! It's where the white blood cells mistakenly think your eyes are a foreign object and start attacking them! Joy! I haven't had this for 5 years. I think maybe the stress of the last few weeks has brought it on but it's definitely more reason to ask for immune testing/immune drugs for my next cycle I guess! Xx

HJen22 · 11/03/2022 14:01

@Kittyyy85 don't be silly no need to apologise, I hope you've been kind to yourself and given yourself time to process. The end of this week and the start of a new one soon. You've gotten through it and are strong x

Had our final monitoring scan today! 3 follicles are good size, 3 a bit smaller and the left ovary one super small. But EC is booked in for 9.30am on Monday! So stims tonight and tomorrow lunch then trigger 9.30pm tomorrow. I'm trying to be positive and not worry about the procedure. In the grand scheme of things, I can do it like so many other ladies do. Nothing I can do now but hope and stay calm. I am praying those 6 follicles have 6 good eggs!

Oh my goodness that sounds horrible,
I'm so sorry your poor eyes. And yes, you've been under so much stress I'm not surprised your body is suffering. I really hope they can do some testing for you next cycle. When should your follow up appointment be do you know? Xxx

AliceAbsolum · 11/03/2022 14:06

@HJen22 Not long now then, 6 is a good number. You'll be in the 2ww before you know it! Good luck with the trigger shot 👍

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Somatronic · 11/03/2022 14:20

@Kittyyy85 I'm sorry to hear that you've been having a tough time. I hope your eyes improve - that sounds horrible you poor thing. I have autoimmune diseases so I know how irritating it can be for your body to randomly start attacking various other body parts. And it's always at the back of my mind in terms of TTC too. Feel better soon.

@HJen22 best of luck with the next few days! Of course you can do it. Hoping it all goes well for you.

Kittyyy85 · 11/03/2022 14:46

Thank you @HJen22 and @Somatronic 😘😘

@HJen22 that's great! Well done you! EC will go absolutely fine so you've nothing to worry about! I was so anxious but was completely knocked out by the sedation and don't recall a thing, other than waking up and shoving the biscuits and crisps they provided down me 🐷 the hardest part was having to go for a wee before they'd let me go home 😂

@Somatronic ah, auto immune stuff is rubbish, right! I totally forgot to even mention my auto immune conditions to my clinic. Mine come and go (history of uveitis and alopecia), and I haven't had either for years so stupidly forgot about them during the initial assessments!
Make sure you mention yours to your clinic before you get started so you're given the right testing/drugs if you need them xxx

SamTTC · 11/03/2022 15:46

@HJen22 good luck with the ec! Honestly, it was not a big deal for me. I had morphine and local anaesthesia, and it was totally fine. The only uncomfortable thing was having the drop needle in my arm (my body does NOT like this, and I get very nauseous and dizzy, but as far as I know that's a very rare reaction). And it's cool to see them suck the follicles out on the monitor. :) I also had 6 retrieved.

@AliceAbsolum that is so useful with the website with the different addon 'ratings'. I for sure thought assisted hatching and the ERA test were considered legitimately helpful tools. I have wondered whether the ERA test would be helpful since your window might change cycle to cycle, so it's interesting that they point this out as a potential flaw in the test.

@LT103 you are definitely not alone in being stressed and having nightmares! Every step of this journey just introduces a new fear of having your body / the clinic mess something up. Will you not produce eggs? Will they trigger you too late/too soon? Will your body ovulate on its own, or not at all? Will the follicles be empty? Will the eggs not fertilise? Etc etc etc...... and even if all those steps go right, a good embryo still has to stick and implant and grow and thrive for it all to matter... honestly sometimes I wonder how any human manages to be born ever! So even for all that science, nature is still in charge. It seems impossible! But it DOES work, very often, for many many people. That's what I try to keep telling myself.

An update for me: my period is finally over after my failed cycle, which means I can stop wearing pads for the first time in three weeks (since the progesterone pessaries were so messy). It's the small pleasures you know? :) I had to go for two blood tests before they would declare me officially not pregnant, because the first HCG value was 4, and they wanted it to be max 3. I thought that was pretty silly, in what world does an HCG value of 4 mean anything? But the second time it was 3, so they finally let me end this cycle. Now I just have to wait it out, because they won't do my FET until next cycle. Is it just me, or are we always just waiting, waiting...?

I also had a follow-up TSH blood test done, just because I've been having some hypothyroidism symptoms, but it came back as totally normal. I know it's possible to have the disease even with a normal TSH level, but honestly I think I'm just symptom spotting at this point, because I want there to be a fixable reason for why I'm not pregnant yet, you know? Other than having my bacterial levels tested next week, I think I'll just trust the process, at least for the two FET cycles I have lined up. And I NEED to stop eating sugar. It's my only vice, but I know it's a bad one!

Kittyyy85 · 11/03/2022 16:21

@SamTTC ah I'm so sorry you had a failed cycle! It sucks doesn't it. I had my BFN on Sunday. It must be great to have finished your breakthrough bleed. I'm still spotting 5 days on and waiting for a full flow. I'll be pleased to get it all out of my system. I feel like I can't draw a line under it until it's done!

And yup! I feel like it's a constant wait too! I thought the fresh cycle was bad enough but I'm guessing waiting to an FET will be just as frustrating, especially since our hormones might be totally out of whack so who knows when our real cycles might start again! This will be my first FET

I'm the same and trying to pinpoint and blame my failure on a fixable issue, for me it's immunity that I'm clinging on to but you're right, I guess we've just gotta trust the process! Will yours be a medicated or natural FET?

SamTTC · 11/03/2022 17:50

@Kittyyy85 aww thanks. I’m sorry yours failed too! My test day was Friday, but I stared my period Wednesday (despite being on progesterone). It was already depressing having to go in for that one blood test to confirm the BFN, and then I had to do two! 😂
Five days of spotting is really annoying, hoping your actual flow starts soon.

It was my first IVF cycle and transfer, and it’s really hard to shake the feeling that if it didn’t work the first time, that means it will never work. That’s also how I felt after the first IUI, which just felt so definitive, but then I did four more and absolutely nothing happened. But all those are just negative thoughts - this transfer not working had no bearing on the others’ chances.

Kittyyy85 · 11/03/2022 18:45

@SamTTC awww, we're in the same boat! This was my first go at IVF too so I feel your pain!

Since seeing my BFN on Sunday, I've found the whole thing pretty traumatic so I can't even imagine having to go in just to be told it hasn't worked when you already knew it anyway. It almost just sticks the knife in even more 😭 I'm so sorry you had to go through that.

There was this part of me that felt like after all this time, IVF would be the one and you're right, once it fails, there is that part of us that feels like "well that was a waste of time too then" but it's just so fresh for both of us so we're bound to feel that way. I find morning's are the worst for me, I keep waking up feeling empty!

BUT... somehow we've gotta shake that negativity off! If it doesn't work, we try again!

Just think IVF does almost get to the finish line and you were closer to being pregnant then you may have ever been with TTC naturally or with IUI! Everytime we have a transfer we just need that last little bit of magic to get to those beautiful BFP's. We've got this 💪 xx

PMAmostofthetime · 11/03/2022 21:51

@HJen22 @Kittyyy85

Absolutely nothing! No sign of AF at all. Really stressing me out now, which I know won't help at all.

@Kittyyy85
How your feeling better soon, that sounds awful.

@HJen22 exciting news about Monday :) lots of people say they sleep through it so I hope it's the same for you :)

@SamTTC I have passed out at all my blood tests l, my body just. Does not like needles or giving blood.

@SamTTC @Kittyyy85 Sorry about your failed cycles- hopefully your Frosties will be the ones :)

I'm very moody and exhausted-definitely not fun to be around right now.

PMAmostofthetime · 11/03/2022 23:29

It's day 6 today will be day 7 tomorrow, EX was supposed to be 21st that won't be happening now :(

SamTTC · 12/03/2022 09:20

@ PMAmostofthetime that’s so odd about your AF! I remember before my first IUI cycle my period was about a week late, it was the longest it’s ever been and I really think it was just my body stressing out. It’s horrible how that can happen! If you’ve been on progesterone that also might have delayed things? (I always bleed through mine but I know it can affect other women’s cycles). Have you spoken to your clinic about what might be causing it?
and ohh no about the needles, that must make things extra difficult. how are you with the self injectables? I was surprised to find I had no reaction to doing it, when usually needles also make me queasy (I was a blood donor but had to stop because I passed out after every time lol)

@Kittyyy85 exactly! We are closer than we’ve ever been and if it’s going to work, this is how. A bit of a sad thought but it helps me keep perspective! And having frosties also makes me feel super lucky. The clinic originally reported that I had nothing to freeze, so these two chances really feel like bonuses to me now. The first try will likely be natural, since they always like to start out that way, and then they might do medicated for the second one…

PMAmostofthetime · 12/03/2022 11:09

@SamTTC I was on Northesteroine to control my cycle, my last day was the 5th March.

It now later than my usual cycle so so frustrating,
Clinic says it's unusual but can take up to 2 weeks which was not their plan.

This is my first cycle so not had to self inject yet, however I'm usually ok with normal injections just not bloods.

My OH will be injecting me though, and I'm going to use ice to numb the area first.

Hope your next cycle goes to plan with your frostie

AliceAbsolum · 12/03/2022 11:30

I hear you ladies waiting for AF. Yesterday I had loads of cramps and spotting, convinced it would start today. But nothing today, nothing. Seriously the one time I want it to turn up! Frustrating. But I'm trying to roll with it. It'll come when it comes.

DH was talking this morning about how scared he is of getting a BFP. I think men really go through it more than we (I!) think. But at least we are in a similar place I guess.
I never thought I'd go into a cycle dreading it working. Ridiculous really. But that's what miscarriage does to you I suppose. /sigh/
I take comfort in knowing that women who get pregnant and have a loss in a cycle of ivf have a higher chance of having a live birth than if you have never been pregnant

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HJen22 · 12/03/2022 13:16

It's just typical isn't it, when you really want AF to appear; the one and only time! I really hope everyone's appears ASAP! The added stress is not what anyone needs!

That's our last two injections done, actually a bit emotional about it! Just the trigger tonight to go! The one thing I'd say, the injections weren't as bad as I thought, and mentally I've felt better than I have in ages because I've felt like we were "doing" something.

Aw bless, it's so totally normal to be scared. You and your OH are strong, and can do this. Have faith in the process and I really hope this is your time x I hope you're managing to enjoy the sun too and relax a little. Xx

PMAmostofthetime · 12/03/2022 14:16

@HJen22
@AliceAbsolum
@SamTTC
And everyone else that has asked
AF has just arrived!
It's after 12 so technically is day 1 tomorrow but despite the awful cramps, I'm just relieved that it's arrived and one wait is over.
Have to call the clinic Monday am and see what the next steps are.

HJen22 · 12/03/2022 14:20

@PMAmostofthetime great news! Hopefully you'll get started Monday! Sorry to hear you've bad cramps but I'm glad it's finally here for you and you can get started!

AliceAbsolum · 12/03/2022 14:21

Hurrah @PMAmostofthetime!

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Somatronic · 12/03/2022 14:55

@SamTTC I'm sorry about the cycle not working out. Just FYI about your TSH, for conception it should ideally be between 1 and 2. The normal ranges are usually around 0.5-5 so whilst your TSH might be within range, it might not optimal for conception if it's on the higher side of normal ranges. This information comes from my endocrinologist by the way!

wholemeal121 · 12/03/2022 14:57

@PMAmostofthetime yay! What I thing to celebrate, eh?

@HJen22 trigger shot tonight for me too! Late night for me, after 11pm! What time is yours? Trying not to stress about it. I'll be pleased when I've got it done and then we effectively get a day off tomorrow.

I'm feeling very full and can't move around much without feeling uncomfortable. I don't think I'm going to get much done this weekend. I think emotion wise it hasn't been too bad except for the time I cried at the idea of going to the supermarket

HJen22 · 12/03/2022 15:03

@wholemeal121 ah trigger and EC twins! Exciting! Thankfully mine is 9.30pm, although I'm quite often asleep by then haha I'll need to try stay awake tonight! I know, be nice to have a day off tomorrow. How are you feeling about Monday? Did your clinic Covid test? I had mine yesterday but they didn't do my OH, apparently they don't get done now.

Oh yeah don't get me wrong there were still some tears! And I was terrible on the lead up, I was really really down in January and right before we started I was in tears most days. I think I'd done a lot of my breakdowns prior to meds.

That sounds uncomfortable, try and take it easy today! I'm ok but I cannot stop eating! Xx

SamTTC · 12/03/2022 15:32

@PMAmostofthetime hurrah!! We’ve all been waiting with bated breath haha! Here’s to a new cycle and a new chance!

@Somatronic that’s so interesting! Thanks for sharing that info. My TSH was actually 1.5, so apparently exactly ideal. Guess that’s definitely not the issue then. :)

wholemeal121 · 12/03/2022 19:39

@HJen22 ah nice! No, there's been no mention of COVID testing so at least I don't have to worry about that. Monday seems so far away and so disconnected with everything else that I'm not thinking too much about it yet. I guess I will more once the trigger is done. How about you?