FET Chances of my 2 frozen embryos to thaw? Advice please

[ShareLove]

Hi , I had a FET cycle 2 months ago and it failed . I had 5 frozen embryos 4AA , and 4x 4BB
On my trasfer day , the 4AA partly survived . So they thawed another one , 4BB , that one didn’t survive and they thawed the third one 4BB and that also partly survived . So I used 3 embryos in one day and trasferred 2 partly surviving embryos , I think cell loss was 50% on both .
Now I have 2 embryos left 4BB , I am guessing that they will also partly survive and maybe one dies , or lose a lot of cells and my cycle will fail again ? Any advice please I’m so stressed out !

And I can’t do another fresh cycle until frozen ones as used because I’m on NHS xx

@ShareLove It is unusual for someone to experience that many unsuccessful thaws. Survival rates are normal over 90% for a clinc. Have you clinic investigated why your batch of embryos are not surviving and given you answers? You want also want to report your experience to HFEA

@2mumlife hey thanks for replaying ! I wanted a review about my failed cycle and the nurse said I can but there is nothing much to discuss as the embryo either survives or not and that’s it . They can’t do nothing about this .

@2mumlife I will have my review next week and I’m going to ask them why the embryologist didn’t thaw all 5 to find one good embryo instead of transferring 2 partly surviving ones with 50% cell loss .
I don’t understand because they were all good quality before freezing and in one day I wasted 3 embryos . Ofcourse I trasferred 2 poor quality ones anyways and 1 died but still I knew I had very low chance of it working from the moment they said they are bad quality after thaw .

@ShareLove Some cell loss is normal - I'm not sure what percentage, but I'm assuming less than 50% if they felt they should defrost. If you look back through the thread, there was someone else who had a large number of embryos not survive the thaw, not that long ago (maybe within the past 6 months or so?) - it might be useful to take a look at that as I think she might have asked for an investigation into whether something was done incorrectly at the time the embryos were frozen. Since the thaw survival rate should be very very good for embryos of those good grades, its either incredibly bad luck, or a sign somethings off.

Some cell loss is not unexpected, but significant amounts of cell loss is unusual, and it's rare (as far as I know) to have 1 embryo lost and 2 with over 50% loss in one go - most clinics say at least 90% of their frozen embryos survive thawing and report much less cell loss than you experienced.

I'd report your experience to HFEA and ask at your review appointment about why they think you had the outcome you did - eg. have they looked at the freezing/thawing process to see if something went wrong? I'd also ask what they'd plan to do differently for the next transfer to reduce the risk of the same thing happening again.

I'd report to the HFEA too- I hope the next FET works for you, but if it doesn't will you go private/move clinics?

@tulipsandsnow thank for all your replies .
Hey , if my next 2 frozen embryos don’t thaw well or thaw poorly then I will still trasfer whatever I get from the 2 , even if it’s poor quality as I am on NHS funding and I HAVE to use all frozen first . So this would be my second trasfer and I will get 1 more cycle of IVF if it fails and hopefully get new egg collection with better quality embryos . So I won’t be moving clinics because of my NHS funding 🙂
I get 3 cycles on nhs but I have to apply for the 3rd one separately .
I had 17 eggs collected and 5 to freeze on day 5 and I got OHSS so I couldn’t go fresh trasfer first time tahts why I got them frozen .
They quality before frozen was great so I don’t understand what went wrong
But I feel very disappointed that if my next cycle fails , it’s like a wasted chance because they know that it’s very unlikely to work with the quality of the embryos so I wasted 2 cycles for nothing then without ever having a good embryo put inside me for a fair chance . Plus being on medicine for weeks and weeks for nothing .

Hi @ShareLove I'm sorry to hear about your experience :(

When this happened to another poster I recommended they ask askembryologists on Reddit, which they did, this is the thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEmbryologists/comments/q3t80h/noneoffour88embryossurviveddthethawinggprocess/?utmsource=share&utmmmedium=iosapp&utmmname=iossmf