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ERA/EMMA/ALICE Testing Thread 3

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Janefx40 · 02/01/2022 22:33

Hello all,

This is a continuation of the ERA/EMMA/ALICE Testing thread.

New posters are welcome. On here you will find a group of women who are either doing these tests or have done them already and are further on the journey

This is the friendliest and most supportive group so feel free to join and post

Xxx

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Janefx40 · 25/01/2022 20:35

Early testers never hear any good about themselves...or is that eavesdroppers?!

So it is a squinter. Or a faint positive. Which doesn't help at all because I had a trigger shot 15 days ago (it should be out my system but I am very sensitive to drugs in general).

Or it could be a chemical. This is the earliest I've ever tested. With my miscarriage I tested at 14dpo and it was positive but fairly faint. By the next day it was strong and my Hcg was 168. So not too worried about the faintness if I could only be sure it wasn't the trigger.

Serves me right. Not sure whether to tell DP. He doesn't like all the ups and downs. Prefers a clear answer. But am no good at secrets so probably will

I literally imagined you all with me as I stared at that test window. Love you guys xxx

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VenusStarr · 25/01/2022 20:51

🤞 @Janefx40 that won't be the trigger. I think it's usually out by 8-10 days past. I still had it at 10 days when I did a medicated cycle but gone by 14dpo. So I would put money on positive rather than trigger.

Does your clinic do bloods? I'd be cautiously optimistic ❤️ do you have more tests for the next few days, or will you wait awhile? Xx

Janefx40 · 25/01/2022 21:10

Thanks @VenusStarr also of course it wasn't FMU but it was a hold of nearly 3 hours and when I did a couple of tests of my trigger it was way darker in the evening strangely.

The FRER is a clear but faint positive. The easy at home is a proper squinter. I usually find them quite sensitive.

The clinic will do bloods on Saturday. So I'm not really any better off but I'm not totally out yet xxx

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whatcangowrong · 25/01/2022 21:56

15 days is a really really long time for it to be the trigger, I don't think it would be and my trigger always hangs around an absolute age. Are you 8dp5dt? With evening wee I think clear but faint at this still early stage is definitely promising! Really hoping for you that it might be good news! ❤️

Janefx40 · 25/01/2022 22:17

Thanks @whatcangowrong yes I am 8dp5dt. Honestly I don't feel particularly reassured - I guess it could have been stark white but other than that I'm no further forward.

I'll keep you updated but won't keep splurging because I'm aware this isn't the right space for that. But thank you for letting me do it today xxx

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StillTrying10000 · 25/01/2022 22:21

@Janefx40 Oww wow! I understand the caution but I'd say that's exactly where you'd want to be today. It's still early so feint line is still really promising and I always test out my trigger and it's gone by 10DPtrigger. My hubby is the same, gets frustrated with the highs and lows but at the end of the day you have to share really don't you. I really hope that line is bright pink for you in the morning!
@VenusStarr totally understand why you wouldn't risk defrosting that precious sparkling embryo just for testing now. I hope you get your answers soon xxx

Janefx40 · 26/01/2022 07:02

I'm afraid it's a BFN here. Same results on FRER and easy at home but the CB Digital says not pregnant which means my level of Hcg is less than 10. I'll keep taking meds and test again in 2 days just to be sure. Deep breaths. Onwards and upwards x

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StillTrying10000 · 26/01/2022 07:44

@Janefx40 Oww I'm so sorry it wasn't the dark line we're all hoping for. This is the worst time when you think you are out but can't be certain so there's that painful glimmer of hope. Stay strong. Sending hugs xxx

Gardenlady543 · 26/01/2022 07:59

@Janefx40 if you're getting anything positive at 9dp5dt then I don't think you're out. A lot of people only test positive for the first time around now. It could be that you're urine was quite concentrated last night, so the lines are similar. I think you just need to try and get through the next few days and see what the result is like at the end. Some people have a blood test at this point, could you bring it forward?

VenusStarr · 26/01/2022 09:21

Oh @Janefx40 ❤️ keep on with your meds. This process is so hard. We're here. I'm sending you a big hug xx

whatcangowrong · 26/01/2022 09:29

@Janefx40 hang in there. It could go either way still. Obviously a nice dark line would be better but I wouldn't take too much notice of the clear blue, I think they really need you to be quite pregnant, and it's still early. Will be thinking of you over the next days x

Janefx40 · 26/01/2022 11:18

Thanks everyone ❤️

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Janefx40 · 26/01/2022 11:25

Thanks everyone ❤️

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VenusStarr · 26/01/2022 16:54

How are you doing @Janefx40? I don't know if I misunderstood your earlier message. Were the frer and easy at home faint positive today or bfn? I hope you're doing OK xx ❤️

Janefx40 · 26/01/2022 17:02

@VenusStarr thanks for asking. I'm not great tbh but didn't want to clog up the thread any more than I already have.

The FRER was a clear but faint positive again, similar to last night. The easy at home was a squinter again but slightly stronger than last night. The CB digital with weeks indicator was "not pregnant". So that basically means my Hcg level is probably 7 or 8 which is most likely to mean a chemical. I haven't told DP. I showed him the positive last night but didn't want to do that to him. Will tell him when I have a clearer answer. Been crying all day in between work meetings!

I'm not sure if I'll test tomorrow or wait until Friday.

Hope everyone else is ok xxx

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VenusStarr · 26/01/2022 17:09

Oh I'm sorry, don't feel like you can't post and talk here @Janefx40 I don't want to give false hope, but a faint line at this stage is definitely not your trigger. Plus frozen embryos do implant slightly later. I know this is torturous for you and I wish you had a clear answer ❤️ xx

whatcangowrong · 26/01/2022 17:22

@Janefx40 so sorry you're going through this. Been there many times as a serial early tester. Just to say I think clear blue requires 50 for a pregnant result. Frer I think js around 10. So your hcg might not be that low for where you are xx

Gardenlady543 · 26/01/2022 17:37

Plus we're talking urine hcg which is lower than blood hcg, if it were me I'd bring the blood test forward, because I can tell this is making you really worried and it still may all be ok.

Janefx40 · 26/01/2022 17:44

Thanks guys. I think FRER has been shown to pick up around 6.5 and CB digital say the threshold is 10. These numbers have always fitted roughly with my experience (because I used to be at ARGC where they do lots of blood tests). But I will go with @whatcangowrong anyway because it makes me feel happier.

Thanks @Gardenlady543 but I think I will wait until Saturday because I think it will be more conclusive plus not sure I can actually get into London before then anyway.

It's not so much that I'm worried as upset and exhausted. I know you will relate to this and many of you have been through a lot more than me. But I'm just so tired. The thought of doing this all again feels draining. But I am lucky that we do have another embryo so at least we have that option.

I know I'm lucky. But I'm tired of all this!

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VenusStarr · 26/01/2022 18:15

It's exhausting ❤️ @Janefx40 frer are very sensitive - my first faint line at 9dp5dt was 5.2 blood hcg. When my hcg dropped to below 1 I was still getting a faint line on them. Horrible.
I hope you do manage to get some rest, although I know it's hard when your anxious mind is turning every eventuality round in your head xx

seven201 · 26/01/2022 22:21

Sorry, only just catching up. @Janefx40 you are not out yet! It's such an awful time, this limbo land. Not knowing what you should be feeling. Fingers crossed for you.

Janefx40 · 26/01/2022 22:41

Thanks @seven201

I'm not going to test tomorrow. Have a lot on at work and can't be sobbing into zoom (!)

Actually feeling calmer. Have a good sleep all and thanks for today...

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greendress789 · 26/01/2022 22:46

I'm staying hopeful for you @Janefx40 🤞

Janefx40 · 27/01/2022 20:26

Just wanted to let you all know that DP and I have decided I'm not going to test again until Saturday morning when I also have the blood test. I prefer to go in with a bit of advance knowledge.

I don't think testing will reassure us at this point (unless the test was stark white and then we'd know it was over).

I still can't tell. Cramps have all gone and no discharge which is usually a sign for me but I do have a crazy thirst.

Hope you're all doing ok. Xxx

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StillTrying10000 · 27/01/2022 21:29

@Janefx40 well done on staying strong, that sounds like a good plan. I can't stop thinking about you. Really hoping for the best. Do you think you will get the blood results later in the day or will it be a wait until Monday? x