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Time lapsing

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Reefy · 17/12/2021 19:25

Hi there, I'm going to be started my third round of IVF in a few months time & just doing some research into different things to try & was wondering if anyone has done time lapsing for the embryos & if you think it is worth doing?

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whatcangowrong · 17/12/2021 20:45

I recently did it with CARE, they call it caremaps. Already had one baby via ivf without it and we were trying for a second. Care give a score out of 10 for the embryoscope and they say over a 7 is a good quality embryo:

Collected 12 eggs which resulted in 6 embryos, which was great, 2x 8s, a 7, 5, 4, and a 2 - transferred the 8s and the 7 one by one all BFN.

On the basis of the now quite low scores left and the failed transfers we did another round and decided to pgt a test them. Got 4 embryos, 2x 9s a 7 and a 6. All pgt a abnormal and had to be destroyed.

Was pretty panicked at this point, had 3 low scoring embryos left but with the bad pgt a and failed transfers we assumed the ones we had left wouldn't be any good.

Transferred the 5 and 4 together... now 8 weeks pregnant with twins 😂 So in short yes I've tried embryoscope, for us it turned out to be a load of nonsense. By all means do it but don't make big decisions based on the scores - we wasted £10k+ by writing off our "low scoring" embryos and deciding to do another collection 😒

whatcangowrong · 17/12/2021 20:48

One thing to note, if you're with care, caremaps is free if you do pgt a testing. So if you are toying with one or the other you might find you can afford both. I am now a bit sceptical. My only pregnancies have been from untested average grade embryos. I think nature knows things that the algorithm hasn't worked out yet. What has happened in your previous 2 rounds?

Reefy · 17/12/2021 21:15

@whatcangowrong thank you for replying. Congratulations! Wow you never know! The embryologist said to me last time If they didn't think they could make a pregnancy they wouldn't use them!
So my 1st round 9 collected 6 fertilised 1 made it to day 3 so transferred & it was a 6/4/4 so best for a day transfer 3 apparently. Second round 13 collected 6 fertilised I had 3 at day 5 transferred the best one which was a 3BC the others were c grade so wouldn't freeze. I'm not with Care & I'm not too sure if my clinic do testing. I've looked on the HFEA website & it shows as amber so not. I guess do some more research.

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IamnotwhouthinkIam · 17/12/2021 22:41

It wasn't worth it for me - I'm pregnant from my second cycle when I didn't pay the £800 extra for embryoscope that time. I asked my clinic when trying to decide and they said that while it means the embryos are disturbed less, they don't "lose" anymore with or without the embryoscope.

But I only managed to get 3 or 4 3 day embryos each cycle, so was always going to transfer whatever I got. I have read it can help them choose the "best" looking embryo to transfer if you have lots, as they can look back at the footage and how well/evenly the top choices divided.

bonetiredwithtwins · 18/12/2021 06:32

I did my clinics equivalent of embryoscope- it was "only" about £800 so seemed like a drop in the ocean compared to the overall bill!
Anyway I was doing a 3 package of embryo banking. We were doing a double transfer and we used the embryoscope to pair the embryos up to those that best complemented each other - it meant a last minute switch of one actually. I had twins from my 2 lowest graded ones (I wanted to work backwards and leave the best to last and these are actually now still frozen!)
I also had done PGTA on the round before and didn't get any normals similar to previous poster but decided not to test my twins

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