Would you be annoyed ?

[strawberrysummer19]

So we have our consultation on Tuesday to discuss the DNA fragmentation results after recent sa analysis after our first failed ivf

Had 9 eggs, 8 fertilised all looking fine on day 3 then none made to blastocyst! Not one!
Day 6 looks good, 2 made it to blastocyst with a possible 3rd
Day 7 call none good enough to freeze

Plan is to test for dna fragmentation before doing next cycle

But my boyfriend was cross at first because he has done 2 rounds of ivf which didn't work - but previous partner not me

His initial sa came back fine but the clinic have told me they don't test this as standard ( absolutely understandable) only if an ivf doesn't work ? But surely with his failed 2 previously we should have been offered this?no?

Can't get my head around it and know we may get answers as to why on Tuesday I just want some real life advice on if we should be annoyed ? Because we have been feeling annoyed. But I don't want to come across as I'm looking for someone to blame just because it didn't work as it's really not that - I know it's a gamble but surely we should have at least been offered it?
Rather than waste a cycle, spent £1700 on meds and hundreds on bloods, car park and petrol driving 2 hours to clinic not to mention the emotional side and developing OHSS !

Thanks for reading x

Hi @strawberrysummer19 I'm sorry to hear about the situation you're in. If the SA looked ok then I don't think the clinic could have preempted the situation. DNA fragmentation isn't routinely done before a first cycle. Even with your partner's history with their ex, the clinic wouldn't have had detailed information about this, so wouldn't make treatment decisions based on a different partner's results, plus DNA fragmentation can change over time.

I would try and draw a line under it and focus on how to move forward. I think trying to place blame is not going to be helpful. In my case a thin lining was missed for 7 months, it was only picked up after 2 unsuccessful transfers when my specialist looked back at the original scan. Ok I lost money, time, 2 embryos... but I need to work with my specialist to resolve the issue, so I just brushed it off and made sure I paid attention to absolutely everything, so nothing could be missed.

I think it’s understandable to be annoyed. I personally think our clinic were negligent for not doing a DNA fragmention test on my fiancé’s sperm. They’re the experts and that’s what we pay them for. I know what clinics are like for not taking responsibility. So I never raised it with them and went to a different clinic for round 2.

Dna fragmentation is a relatively "new" test - we looked into it but the treatment for it is certain medication which can Be found routinely in a good male preconception supplement and because DH had been taking them a long time they said that was good enough - I'd look at putting him on a Proceive max for men

@Gardenlady543 thank you, yes I'm all for drawing a line now. It was my fiancé that was so cross at first that I tried to just brush it under the carpet. It's only because there's been a delay with the result and the clinic wanted to book me in 3 weeks file to discuss the results that's made me bring this question up to the clinic.
It makes sense what you are saying. I know they wouldn't have had the detailed report but just seems annoying that he's had 2 cycles and I think it could have been offered but it's just my opinion. But im all for moving forward and other than that I really like my clinic so wouldn't want to change. We've had a paid next cycle so just need to focus on that.

@EL8888 sorry that happened to you and good for you changing clinics if you felt something wasn't right. We changed initially after having a consultation with another clinic, had my 1st scan and just wasn't comfortable with them so changed.

@ivfgottwins yeah it's a new thing I guess and I have never heard of it. My clinic are one step ahead and even given me a link of where to find the supplements so we've got them and stated taking them as our new prenatal vitamin. Even if it doesn't come back high we have our vits covered.

Hopefully after Tuesday we will know what's what but I will still ask the question as it's been on our minds.
In my eyes I've gone through every test under the sun so I don't see why adding dna fragmentation would be a bad thing to add in.
But again just my opinion x

And based on the fact it's not really our 1st cycle it's my partners third x