Sudden uterine polyp

[kennetrose]

I had a medicated cycle at a private clinic in April/May, had the next cycle off but had an NHS scan in that time, and now I’m on CD12 of another medicated cycle at the private clinic. I had my mid-cycle scan today.

I say this because I’ve had a lot of scans recently. My scan today showed a uterine polyp. I had an NHS scan on 3 June, just before my period, and they didn’t say anything. Now on 18 June there is a polyp that is just under a centimetre.

My doctor didn’t seem worried. He said it wouldn’t cause infertility and we’ll just keep an eye on it. I’m trying to follow his example but I feel really alarmed. The more I read about polyps the worse it gets (I should really stop). The fact it grew so quickly freaks me out most.

Has anyone had a polyp that resolved by itself? How long did you monitor it for? If you got it removed, what triggered that decision?

Glad to hear they are working together, helps if you don't have to be the go between of them, no extra stress needed.

Sorry to hear about your 3 miscarriages, totally get why you want to do everything you can before transferring another. May I ask what grades you have had and have they all thawed well? Also did they freeze all of yours or some not get frozen due to grades? I ask this as I spoke with the embryologist today who was polite but think she wanted to set fair expectations about drop off, but really it just worried me a little to the point of thinking if there is something on day 3 I'm getting it back inside asap, whether it's a polyp or not, but know my thoughts may chance on that. It felt like she was telling me that getting things to a good enough level to freeze is hard, I don't want false hope but it defo felt gloomy.

The increased Estrogen levels from the stims can cause the polyp to grow, once that stops and hormone levels calm off the body can reabsorb it. A polyp can cause inflammation which is when it can lead to a miscarriage unfortunately. Been reading some studies and for some clinics anything under 1.5cms they don't see as a concern. I think placement is important, where yours is, sound very similar to mine and the pics looks similar. I will ask more about the placement of mine tomorrow as my original clinic made it sound like it was right at the opening of fallopian tube which is why for IUI it would limit the sperm and egg reaching. I feel like any egg that implants that far across anyway is possible risk of biochemical or growing in a bad stop to block the tube, which obviously is dangerous and cannot be moved, not saying that to scare, more that as you say, what's the chances of it implanting there!

I was with Care Fertility just as they took over a NHS Fertility department, lots of teething problems from the change over, felt they over promised and undersold and and some of the staff were cold, didn't have time for me and didn't provide any guidance re sperm donors, which is a massive decision when you have never had to look at it before - just given links to sperm banks, told what motile and it have to be an ID known and off you go. After my IUIs I would lie there for a bit in recovery and hear them speaking nicely and so reassuringly to the women who were coming round from IVF, offer biscuits/tea/saying how well they did and noone even checked on me once! I get IUI isn't the same but as a single person a polite hello and a bit of reassurance or offer of a cuppa would be nice, instead I was sent out with a paper leaflet and told to test in 14 days. When I started to bleed on day 9 after my first IUI and naively was hopeful that it was implantation bleeding the nurse on the emergency lines reply was "sounds like it's failed, no way of knowing, take a test tomorrow and callback with the result"...I wasn't prepared that I wouldn't make it to test day and it devastated me. Each month the IUI cost increased, the final one was close to double what I was originally quoted when it was the NHS place (if it was just the cost I would be okay about it). I just felt I was having to advocate for myself every step of the way and that's hard when it's professionals that know more than you.

Anyways sorry that was a long reply 😂 I have done my trigger shot so will just have to see what Friday afternoon brings.

I hope your appointment on Friday goes well and they get to the bottom of it for you, and some very clear pics to know what is and isn't there.

@ttcsolomumtobe don't worry about long replies, we have lots to talk about and get off our chests! You've helped me no end with your experience and advice so keep it coming.

Congrats on pulling the trigger! I was so scared doing mine thinking it needed to be at the exact right minute, second etc else id ruin it 😅 all went OK I'm assuming? Big day tomorrow! What time is your collection? One thing I will say about Create/ABC, is the nurses are incredible! Will you be at St Paul's? You should get tea, biscuits, all sorts 🥰 I've been quite emotional a few times and they've held my hand throughout.

Grading that we did FET with were 4BC &4CB's and they all thawed well fortunately. The more I read the less I see this external grading is the be all and end all. See how you get on by day 3 and you can make a call based on that, everything crossed for you lovely 🤞🏼

Not sure if I said on my last msg, but re read my paperwork and the polyp is 12mmx8mm, so I really hope they can find and dispose of it! Or at least confirm if it's a fold. By this time tomorrow we'll know at least! I'm so bloody anxious.

I don't know much about sperm donation, do you mind me asking how you found it? Terrible that there wasn't more guidance/support available in such a big decision. Have ABC been better?

Best of luck for tomorrow! Xx

@VioletCookie Haha at trigger timing, I was exactly the same... Ready and waiting till it went to 00.15 on my phone. All went well, fell into a Google rabbit hole though before I feel asleep so super tired today. With my EC not being till 12.15 tomorrow I can atleast have a bit more of a lie in 🤞🏻 and also hoping it's a few extra hours for the smaller ones to catch up. They collect eggs from anything 11mm and bigger, they predicted 8.

I'm under Leeds, I have found ABC really great to be honest, yesterday with all the uncertainty I got multiple calls and offer of counselling so cannot fault them in anyway, just unlucky about whatever this mark/polyp is. Does the 4 mean they were frozen on day 4? And if so do you know why just out of curiosity. My clinic say they freeze 1 day 3 and let the others go to say 5 if it's a freeze all cycle.

I hope it all goes well for you tomorrow 🤞🏻 and they take some good images to share with your clinic but yea it's just absolute peace of mind for you aswell. Do you know what you can start your FET again? And do you have to wait any extra if it is a polyp removal?

Picking a sperm donor is interesting, when I did it with my first clinic I signed up to an American website where you get so much more information, I spent 3 months reading through bios, looking at pictures, listening to their clinic interviews and could filter by health. This time round I wanted to keep it simple and try to get started asap so just picked the one from the clinic that best suited my looked, tbf they only had 2 available and 2 were nothing like me, the 3rs the sperm could only be used for ICSI so would have cost even more. Ok happy with my choice and even more happy that it was easier so luckily didn't need help on that front this time. I think the things that's made the polyp situation so hard is up until Wednesday I've felt so chill about IVF, the injections, the few side affects, being realistic about outcome being lower as mild and have took it in my pace (that's not very me at times haha) and felt in a great place to go ahead with a fresh and it just feels like a massive hiccup... But get EC done, a weekend of rest and health food and see what Monday brings xx

@ttcsolomumtobe fingers crossed for 8! So pleased you've had a better experience this time. The 4 in the grading means expanded blastocyst, but they were all frozen on day 5. This time round we have all 5's, which is a hatching blastocyst. I've also got 1 that was frozen on day 6, so they may potentially let them wait an extra day if they're almost where they need to be! What happened with the Google rabbit hole?? I'm the same, I'll spend hours on Google looking for both issues and answers and drive myself insane!

If they can find and remove the polyp they reckon we can start again in Sept, all being well and nothing abnormal happening on removal. If they don't find a polyp we'll also start in Sept... however my smear is due then and I'm always so paranoid about them so not sure if we should wait until October!

I'm shocked there was only 2 available to review with ABC! I don't know why but I imagined there to be hundreds! At least it made it easier to decide.

How are you feeling today, have you slept well? I'm quite on edge, so nervous that they still won't find an answer in this hysteroscopy or they'll get too close to my tube and it will hurt. But I'm a bit less emotional today and I'm so raring to get answers. I won't be leaving that theatre until he's checked every corner! I'm going to be watching on the screen intently saying 'come on Dr check that corner too, look harder!' 🤣 my stomach has been really sore for a few days, not sure if it's due to the oestrogen or if it's something else polyp related

Let me know how you get on later, sending so many positive vibes your way!!

Thank you for the grading info, although I'm such a planner usually I've tried not too look at info too far ahead in the process (same for pregnancy related stuff) as don't wanna feel I've missed out if things don't get to those stages, but obviously super hopeful it does.

Was googling all things polyps and the impact, there's a fair few stories of women finding out they have a/some polyps during pregnancy scans and they went on to healthy pregnancies so gives me hope.

Could you not call your GP and ask for your smear to be brought forward a month? I know I would, but I'm a bit of a persistent one when I want something done ha 🤣

UK donors are far and few between and think that's cause they have to allow the child at 18 to be given their details. a few of the donors had been imported from "partnership clinics", mine was one of those. Just saved the wait time, which unfortunately didn't go ahead on the next available cycle as I was travelling and period arrived early so delayed by a month but still happy with my choice and keeping it simple.

I slept well but realised I was defo knackered yesterday and more on edge/emotional than I thought. Feel like today I have that raring to go feeling, want to get done and work on my recovery in hope for a day 3. Also just want a cuppa but water only for next couple of hours 🤣

Hope your stomach is better soon, just so hard to know what the feeling are when you've had the hormones and then general worries about things. I don't think the polyp would make your stomach hurt, they go undetected for years. Some people who have them lower down get bleeding and that's why it's found but I had none of that.

I hope your procedure goes well and yes, I'm sure they will have a thorough look and with a great private medical professional! I'm certainly not knocking the NHS in my next comment but it was a student/recently qualified nurse who was doing my last hysteroscopy under the guidance of the consultant, which for me makes me feel even more sure that it's a scar because she really wasn't confident and some parts were painful, it's the being filled with water and pressure that's more uncomfortable. Maybe have a heat pad/hot water bottle on standby.

@ttcsolomumtobe I asked the nurse about an early smear last year (I have them yearly hence not wanting to miss one!) and said if they do it and send it off, the chief smear people (whatever they're called 🤣) can put you on a naughty list and refuse to test your swab and you have to wait a few months before you can try again! So I'll try and bring it forward a week but will still clash with the IVF 😬 I'll have a chat to the nurses and work it all out.

I've seen that about donation actually with sharing of details. How do you feel about that? It's a big thing for people to think about I guess! Think you're right for keeping it simple else it would be so overwhelming! I've always imagined it to be like an argos catalogue and you pick the best looking one 🤣

Not long to go until that cuppa! Have you got someone to help you back from the clinic? I got the train both ways and although my partner was with me from memory I felt pretty fine afterwards, just bloated as I had OHSS! I'm guessing no crazy Friday night plans... feet up and chill this evening! Then a call tomorrow with fertilisation rates 🤞🏼

Omg a student!! I know they are trained and need to start somewhere, but I would have felt so uncomfortable with that. I had a student do my last smear and it was agony! So sorry you went through that. So they'll have a good look at the scar/polyp area today will they?

@VioletCookie haha, could you imagine title of "chief smear officer". I guess a month wait is better than 3 if they did submit it too early. Think mine have always been a little late so didn't think there would be a problem if it was a tad early.

I don't mind the known sperm donor thing, I think it's better the option is there for a child when they turn 18 than no idea and that wondering. I imagine if I was in a couple and using a donor that could be a little harder.

Yea my friends picking up and staying with me for 24 hours, they are not keen on letting you go without knowing that you will have someone with you.
No wild Friday for me ha, maybe go for a meal out with my friend.
Can I ask did you feel okay after sedation and did you manage to eat/drink okay? Reading in another forum and it seems like some are really struggling with the eating and drinking after EC. My numbers don't put me at risk of OHSS but know recovery is important.

I know right, I get they have to learn but can be an expensive price to pay on health for that patient in the future. What time are you booked in for? Hope you have something nice to look forward to afterwards.

@ttcsolomumtobe I was fine after sedation, they gave me a cuppa and load of biscuits which I demolished then went home and my partner made me a steak sandwich 🤣 so hopefully you'll be fine! How do you feel now you're there, keeping calm? Let me know how you feel and how you get on! I'm booked in for 2pm, just having lunch then will start getting sorted as been working in pj's all morning haha

Working in PJs is just a must sometimes!!

How did your hysteroscopy go? Hope you are recovering well.

My egg collect went okay, don't remember any if it and wasn't feeling too bad but have ended up being sick this evening so just staying up a bit later watching TV. Called this clinic and they don't seemed too concerned with that else I'm saying. Well done you for managing a steak!! I was so hopeful that I would be able to go nando but super glad I didn't!

I have egg numbers but will probably share tomorrow after hearing fertilisation. Feel like I don't wanna put the number out there for it to change up, only told my friend who collected me.

@ttcsolomumtobe oh bless you, how are you feeling today? I was sick a bit the second time so I dont think its anything to worry about, but not nice to experience. Keep the numbers to yourself until you feel comfortable to share, perhaps wait till day 5 if you'd prefer or not at all! It's a funny few days so do whatever helps you the most. I hope you're OK though, did they look after you well afterwards?

Hysteroscopy went fine thanks, I'm happy with the outcome. He saw a protusion but still aren't convinced its a polyp, he thinks it's a fold of lining but removed it so hopefully it's not showing on my next ultrasound 🤷🏼‍♀️ my auntie is a nurse so I showed her and she also doesn't think it's a polyp, but it's gone now anyway! I'll attach a picture (its the white kind of lump sticking out)... I'm so confused but at least they've done something! And I'm so happy it didn't hurt, just felt super uncomfortable with quite strong period cramping but it could have been much worse.

I hope you've managed to get some sleep, I know you'll have a lot on your mind the next few days but set milestones and take each update as it comes. You've taken a really big step forwards and I so hope you get some happy results xx