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How do they decide short or long protocol?

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Hopein2020 · 10/01/2020 09:39

1 failed cycle IVF long protocol where it wasn’t a discussion. Moved clinic and now short protocol no discussion.

I’ve tried google but it just tells you what the difference is between them but what I really want to know if why would you be put on short or long protocol? My previous clinic everyone was on long protocol - it’s just how they did it. New clinic seems to be a mix.

Does anyone know why they would say short / long?

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Lauren83 · 10/01/2020 11:42

There's no hard and fast rule and some times it's just doctors/clinics preference but sometimes short for low ovarian reserve, long for chance of overstimulation/pcos, or long for endometriosis to calm inflammation/suppress system, long is often used to sync egg sharers cycles too

NRW39 · 10/01/2020 15:07

As @Lauren83 said, there is no hard and fast rule. My hospital use both.

I've had 4 cycles: 3 with Long Protocol and 1 with Short Protcol. Both with varying outcomes - 2 Failures and 2 miscarriages.

We tried the Short on the 3rd cycle as Docs attitude was; Why not! - Let's try something different and see if that changes anything...

I opted for Long Protocol with Cycle 4, something I didn't think I had a choice in, but luckily I did, because I really couldn't get on with the Short medication.

Cycle 5 starting this year.

Lauren83 · 10/01/2020 15:34

I just did short once then moved to donor eggs, I actually have really low ovarian reserve plus stage 4 endometriosis but they decided on short

My son was a 5th time lucky cycle, good luck!

Hopein2020 · 10/01/2020 15:54

Thanks all that’s interesting! We have male factor issues so I guess they probably decided to try short given Id had an unsuccessful long. I’m looking forward to it all being over a lot quicker!!

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itwasalovelydreamwhileitlasted · 10/01/2020 16:14

Mine was a conscious choice to have short and chose a clinic which only offers that option

After recurrent miscarriages and ectopics felt like I'd put body through enough - we also wanted to to cycle much quicker as we want to move on with our lives

Most clinics prefer long as means they are more in control - follicles tend to grow at an even pace whereas in short protocol you can get a couple that outgrow the others a bit too quick. You also produce more eggs (but the research suggests that you don't actually end up with any more blastocysts than if you had done a milder short protocol)

RyvitaBrevis · 11/01/2020 23:51

At my clinic anyone who is thought to be a poor responder (by AMH or age) is given the short protocol. They had a flow chart on the wall showing short or long and the criteria which I read while having scans! I did short (low AMH, ovaries already a bit suppressed from endo treatment etc) and it was great.

GrumpyHoonMain · 11/01/2020 23:57

Short protocol is a reduced protocol for when you have female factor problems with egg quality or too many / too few follicles. It’s also used if you have high blood pressure / blood clotting issues. The long (or longer) protocol tends to be the default considered if you are healthy as it gives the clinic the maximum control over stimulation.

Hopein2020 · 12/01/2020 09:02

Thanks everyone. It seems to be the consensus that short it for low AMH / Ovarian reserve which isn’t the case for me but I guess as I didn’t get too many eggs last time ( I was on a very low dose of Gonal f and one of my ovaries didn’t get many) he might be erring on side of caution that maybe I’m a bad responder so he is doing short and upping the dose. Fingers crossed if helps.

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seven201 · 12/01/2020 15:47

I'm doing my first ivf and was told it would be short because of my PCO. I wasn't given the option.

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