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Chinese medicine ?!? Ttc at 41

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bec8377 · 13/10/2018 20:06

Hi
I'm trying to conceive at the age of 41 had miscarriage a year ago and have had all the test and nothing wrong with me or my partner ...... I'm having reflexology and I feel I'm beginning to clutch at straws as we would love a child

Has anyone tried Chinese medicine ? Anything else I can try ????

I don't think I can go down the ivf route

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Tunnockssnowballs · 13/10/2018 20:33

You could read it starts with the egg. Might give you some tips but honestly ivf might be the best option.

BeaCat · 13/10/2018 22:53

I haven't tried any Chinese medicine although I would be interested in acupuncture. I'm awaiting ivf treatment currently and they strongly discourage the use of Chinese herbs, so maybe be careful if that's something you are considering. Good luck!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/10/2018 10:49

What are your egg reserves like?.

Was wondering what tests you have both had done to date. People who state that they have had "all" the tests done write this when this is often not the case hence me asking.

bec8377 · 14/10/2018 11:12

Hi

When I saw a fertility specialist he advised there no reason to get pregnant naturally and he was suprised how good my egg reserve is for my age . He also advised that age is not on my side and to maybe seek advice for ivf which we have and was advised that we haven't tried for long enough and that I've already fallen an my results are good and to wait a year and if not to then come back to view my options

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Lauren83 · 14/10/2018 13:59

I would consider starting IVF sooner rather than later if nothing happens in the next few months, regardless of ovarian reserve it's the genetic abnormalities in embryos that are the main cause of implantation failure/miscarriage usually and as soon as you hit mid 30s you can usually expect to see a 1 in 2 chance of an embryo being genetically abnormal and the results decline by year so in your 40s it's hard to get pregnant even with IVF. I agree with PP avoid Chinese medicine it's not proven and can also have a negative effect especially if you are pursuing assisted conception

Tunnockssnowballs · 14/10/2018 15:51

I agree. Consider ivf sooner rather than later and the book it starts with the egg is fantastic.

If Chinese medicines worked then people wouldn’t bother putting themselves through the cost and gruelling process of IVF

bec8377 · 14/10/2018 16:09

Ivf sadly isn't a option for us as we simply don't have the money 😢 this is something that we need review In May after our wedding !

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Tunnockssnowballs · 14/10/2018 16:10

Can you look into finance?

Tunnockssnowballs · 14/10/2018 16:13

Also might be worth looking into the stats of this working for you either naturally or with ivf. Aberdeen university have done a calculator w3.abdn.ac.uk/clsm/opis

Botanica · 14/10/2018 23:21

I'm a similar age and also miscarried last year. Four IVFs down the line and still no closer.

If you don't /can't go down the fertility treatment route, all I can advise is overhauling your diet, lifestyle, stress and sleep.

Acupuncture may help, removing alcohol and caffeine, get rid of any synthetic plastics and fragrances, make sure you're well stocked on vitamins and supplements.

As someone else mentioned 'It starts with the egg' by Zita West is a good book, also 'Fit for Fertility' by Michael Dooley.

KinCat · 15/10/2018 02:48

Sorry to butt in but I just wanted to say please be really careful with traditional Chinese medicines. They're very unregulated and can do more harm than good. My DMIL used various herbs when she had cancer and it didn't end well - the TCM "doctor" was extremely reluctant to tell us what was actually in the medicine and even when, in hindsight, DMIL was literally dying the doctor kept telling us "no, no, this is fine, it's just the side effects of the medication".

flumpybear · 15/10/2018 03:45

Read up on Agnus castus and also high concentration of evening primrose oil

Both easily available and cheap

Yellowsunredroses · 15/10/2018 04:06
  1. Spend the money on ivf not the wedding - a wedding can be done any time a child can’t. You are 41 you do not have time to wait.
  2. Get your partner’s speem checked. 50% of fertility problems are male.
  3. Make sure you are timing sex at 3 days, 2 days, 1 day before and day of ovulation. This is the only time you can get pregnant. If you aren’t timing it properly you have no chance.
HappyHedgehog247 · 15/10/2018 04:21

I wouldn’t wait a year at 41 if this is something you definitely want.

bec8377 · 15/10/2018 21:53

Me and my partner have had test and they have all come back ok .... I'm fully aware age is not on my side , I'm not paying for my wedding ... and mentally I can't think about ivf at the moment I think you have to be mentally ready for it . I also believe what will be will be ...

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ckc45d10 · 15/10/2018 22:00

Have you also considered diet and lifestyle factors for fertility? This research article gives a general overview: fertilityresearchandpractice.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40738-015-0003-4

Yellowsunredroses · 15/10/2018 22:02

What will be will be is fine if you are happy to be childless. You need to decide now. I fear you are in denial/putting your head in the sand a bit.

bec8377 · 15/10/2018 22:20

It's very hard to have ivf when you simply do not have the money to pay for it ! My head not in the sand I know myself and with many other factors I'm not ready for to begin that journey

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Lauren83 · 16/10/2018 06:03

I understand I'm sorry for suggested it, will you likely get cash gifts you can use for the wedding? Could your partner sperm share? I know this isn't an option for everyone and it's a huge thing to consider but if he is 40 and under with no history of genetic illness your IVF free at some clinics. We had 5 cycles and were lucky enough to try on the NHS before paying private, I worked overtime and DP did a second job, I sold stuff on eBay and we made lots of changes to spend less money

Theducksarenotmyfriends · 16/10/2018 06:35

If it worked it would be called, you know, just medicine. I'd be really wary of trying anything like that. The advantage though with things like reflexology, acupuncture etc is they will help you to relax which is really important when ttc. Pp have given good advice re ivf etc. Really hope it happens for you soon!

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