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Watch this video and tell me you are still going to buy their products

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MrsGokWantsatidyhouse · 19/03/2010 14:13

They forced this video to be taken down from You Tube

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Trikken · 19/03/2010 14:30

that is horrible. I wish I hadnt seen that.

MrsGokWantsatidyhouse · 19/03/2010 14:35

Sorry, but it is the only way to get the point across on how revolting this company is.

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Trikken · 19/03/2010 14:42

I know, I can see why they have made it, and agree that it isnt good.

darcymum · 19/03/2010 14:42

I couldn't see it, just tell me what happens?

jasper · 19/03/2010 14:43

what a ridiculous video . No way will I be influenced by nonsense like this

OrmRenewed · 19/03/2010 14:43

Give us a clue...

thumbwitch · 19/03/2010 14:46

It's not just Nestlé though, it's most if not all manufacturers of biscuits and cakes. Palm oil is such a "growth" ingredient, as being a supposely healthier alternative to animal fats that it is no wonder that poor countries like Borneo and Indonesia are pushing the palm plantations.

I completely agree that something needs to be done about it but it involves finding another source of income for these countries that doesn't involve destruction of the orangutans' habitat.

oricella · 19/03/2010 15:06

Panorama recently had a programme on this - which made for interesting viewing. Not sure about this ad though, even though I have a long habit of not buying Nestle - I'm not sure it is fair to single them out when palm oil is in virtually every type of processed food, although they do seem to be dragging their feet consiederably

I don't think it's about health reasons that they add it - it's all about cost in the end. Best thing you can do is refrain from buying anything labelled with vegetable fat. WWF estimates it is in about half of all packaged food, and even in shampoos; FOE states it is nearly impossible to avoid

Another story here

oricella · 19/03/2010 15:09

O, meant to add that it is rather cheeky to go Fairtrade on the one hand, but then refuse to cancel dodgy contracts on the other.. makes KK a bar full of contradictions ;)

shockers · 19/03/2010 15:15

I don't buy Nestle products but I think this is unfair because it singles them out.
I had a bag of wasabi peas from M&S the other day and noticed that they contain palm oil. Lots of cereals and confectionary also contain it.
It's good that they are drawing attention to the fact that palm oil production destroys the habitat of many creatures (including orangutangs) due to deforestation but jumping on one company because they already have a dodgy rep is not good.

addictedtolatte · 19/03/2010 15:15

i already dont buy there product or any other products with palm oilin(if i can help it) ive had it drummed into me by my dp years ago.

MrsGokWantsatidyhouse · 19/03/2010 15:17

Thanks for that oricella, will sit and watch all that tonight.

And I agree whole heartedly with the Fairtrade thing, it's another reason I put this up to show what hipocrites they are.

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shockers · 19/03/2010 15:30

I agree with that. Nestle slapping fairtrade on kit kats is a joke... just not a very funny one.

jasper · 20/03/2010 00:22

I'm off for a Kit Kat

atlantis · 20/03/2010 01:06

Not a problem here, except with greenpeace who are known for their stupid stunts, personally I hope nestle sue them, now there's a fund I will donate too.

oricella · 20/03/2010 07:46

I don't think Nestle are in need of your donation to sue anyone, but I'm sure they'll be grateful for your offer - after all, they do have a good sense of cynicism humour.

I was going to say earlier that the reason why companies get away with using palm oil is that the customers don't care.. glad to see a few of you come along to prove the point before making it

jodevizes · 20/03/2010 13:32

I am not buying KK anymore nor any other products that have Palm oil in.

wannaBe · 20/03/2010 14:30

"I was going to say earlier that the reason why companies get away with using palm oil is that the customers don't care.. glad to see a few of you come
along to prove the point before making it" But the reality is that it's not possible to boycott every company whose agenda you don't agree with. because a 100% ethical company simply doesn't exist, it just happens that some companies strive to be a little bit more publically ethical than others.

And ultimately you have to pick your cause, because it's not possible to support all of them.

You can boycott nestle because of the palm oil or because of the formula in the 3rd world issue or both. But if someone chooses not to it doesn't necessarily mean they don't care, it may simply mean that they don't see much point in boycotting because on the whole, boycotts make very little difference.

oricella · 20/03/2010 17:25

Wannabe - I totally agree, and I did start out by saying that the ad wasn't fair as it was singling out 1 company, when the stuff is in pretty much every kind of processed food. The problem is that most people don't know about it. Worse though, as it seemed to me from a couple of posts, there also people who really don't care even if they do know. I reaally don't think the posts I responded too expressed the view that boycots make little difference

atlantis · 20/03/2010 21:09

"the reason why companies get away with using palm oil is that the customers don't care.. glad to see a few of you come along to prove the point before making it"

Save a whale, save a tree, save a dolphin, save a rainforest, save the planet, save a monkey...

Recycle, drive five miles less a week, solar panel your roof, stick a windmill on the side of your house, boycott chocolate bars...

Evolution, natures way of cleaning house. The planet will be here long after our species is gone (unless the cosmos decides otherwise) let nature unfold naturally and allow the strongest to survive, who are we to argue with mother nature?

thumbwitch · 20/03/2010 22:37

I don't think Mother Nature has anything to do with people clearing vast expanses of orangutan habitat to grow more artificially-planted palm trees to make artificially-extracted palm oil to go into foods. That's humans all the way, NOT renowned in recent times for listening to Mother Nature.

atlantis · 20/03/2010 22:45

"I don't think Mother Nature has anything to do with people clearing vast expanses of orangutan habitat..."

Of course she does, she made humans the top of the food chain and when she's had enough of us she will create something to wipe us out and she'll start again.

oricella · 20/03/2010 23:19

Sure, earth will be here in some shape or form. I imagine you look forward with relish to the wiping out stage - fingers crossed then it won't affect anyone you personally care about. Apres moi le deluge and all that

And there's no such thing as 'the food chain' - we're top predator for a few species (as long as those are neatly presented on a styrofoam tray) but for many others we seem to rather like killing animals for fun or for a cheap chocolate bar

atlantis · 21/03/2010 00:48

"I imagine you look forward with relish to the wiping out stage - fingers crossed then it won't affect anyone you personally care about."

Everything dies it's just a matter of timing.

"we're top predator for a few species (as long as those are neatly presented on a styrofoam tray) "

As the saying goes 'i'm a member of PETA- people who like eating tasty animals'

"And there's no such thing as 'the food chain' "

Well that'll be your little secret, (science departments around the world take note.)

notquitenormal · 21/03/2010 21:40

I saw an interesting programme a few weeks ago (Britains most disgusting foods) that touched on Palm and and pointed out the fact that chocolate companies can be rainforst alliance certified while still using unethical palm oil (because the certification only covers the cocoa.) Surprisd me.

Unfortunately palm oil is so ubiquitous nowadays it is quite hard to avoid.

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