Blame the victim: Religious leaflet claims ‘ungodly’ dressed women provoke rape

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This made me so angry

My friend lives in Boulder and she was given a similar leaflet on new years eve outside a club. She sent me this link this morning.

Idiots

Disgusting.
How can they even think like this?!

How about the scumbag rapists are accountable for their actions, rather than their victims?!!

Good grief

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Dilemma, I think a chastity device is an excellent idea, but for women. I quite agree with the leaflet. People should never be expected to take responsibility for their own actions; what an abomination. How appalling. These people are absolute bloody nutters. I love the way the woman in the car said 'You make men want to be sinful'. I'd have loved to reply 'Well, you make me want to thump you. If I did would you say you were asking for it?'.

Can I add here that they think this way because they are such screwballs, not because they are religious. I wouldn't normally write this way on a thread like this, but sadly experience on MN has taught me that it's only a matter of time before someone comes onto the thread banging on about how religion is the cause of all evil, etc, etc. Which annoys the hell out of me because it's as thoughtless as saying that relationships fail because relationships themselves are the problem, rather than because the people in the relationships are in some way at fault.

Anyway, apologies if this comes across as a bit of a thread hijack.

I thought the mother made a great point when she pointed out that any woman/ girl they hand this to could have been a victim of a sexual crime or abuse.

Thankfully the closest to this I've seen is the man who patrol our local high street with a sandwich board saying we are all sinners. At least he doesn't discriminate.

Well yes Speedy, as the quote from the priest in the article shows, it is just extremist nutjobs. They actually harm the church with this kind of thing.

Your sandwich board man sounds like my dream man. Wonder what he'd think if I divorced my DH to pleasure him for the rest of his mortal life?

And - oh, they quoted a priest, did they?

Reverend, apologies Speedy he normally hangs around outside Iceland - wonder if he's making a bigger point than he actually professes to

Um...I think I'm missing something in your last post

Sorry I didn't separate the sentences.

I meant it was a reverend, not a priest

Alison Pearson pretty much said the same a couople of weeks back in the Mail.

Bloody hell!

Unfortunately though this feeling is common as those surveys a few weeks back showed. This is the extreme edge of it, but I received several lectures (including one from my Mum!) after I was raped by a so-called friend. I am far from alone in this.

Oh, now I'm more confused, TDWP. So the guy in the article is a Rev, whereas Sandwich Board Dream Man is a priest, and therefore I wouldn't be able to marry him ?

Nicky - I am so sorry to hear about your experience. It amazes me that after hearing about such trauma some people can be so caught up in themeselves that they think lecturing you (in any way, let alone with such an objectionable attitude) is the right response. Bloody hell.

haha this is how my post should have read

Reverend, apologies. (meaning rev was quoted in the article)

Speedy he normally hangs around outside Iceland - wonder if he's making a bigger point than he actually professes to?

Two separate points. I have no idea bout our high street bloke, but he is bloody determined, he's there rain or shine. Not sure he'd have time for married life...sorry..

Phew

nicky that is so awful! I'm really sorry. Do you think your mum was just blundering and had no clue what to say? I know full well I might in that situation.

This kind of thing is disgusting. Agree that it's not religion, but extremist nutters who say this crap.
when I was in 6th form we had a boy saying this stuff in english class. The teacher was furious and pointed out the same thing - how do you know that one of the women in this room has not been raped? (the boy was not talking from a religious standpoint, he was saying that women fantasise about being raped, therefore they LIKE being raped, therefore there is nothing wrong with rape )

TDWP - aww, you are so good to carry on trying to clarify this! Spose I'll just have to stick to my marriage to a non-nutter, then. Sigh.

Queen - I wonder if that boy in your class is now a member of the BNP...

Oh my god. That is horrible.

I just read it to my husband who said "that is not religion, it's disgusting. If you go to a safari park and stand in front of the lions and they eat you - that's your fault. They are wild animals. But men are not wild animals and it doesn't matter if a woman walks down the street with no clothes on at all."

I can't think of a better way to put it

Applauds HeQets DH

It has become like this with a lot of crime - the victim is at fault a lot inthis country - they were silly doing whatever and didn't protect themselves.

No victim of a crime should be blamed - the criminal should be sorted in some way to realsie that they are on the wrong.

The police are good at laying blame with the victm

Hmmm not always Ivy but I do agree somewhat.

My friend was mugged by three men at the bus stop outside her university. It is a fairly dodgy area but it was 7pm (winter) and pretty busy.

They quite badly hurt her arm and got away with her bag. One of the attending officers (a woman) told her she shouldn't be in such an area in the dark and maybe should phone taxis. ffs.

She ended up missing quite a lot of uni when she couldn't get her boyfriend or housemate to drive her as she was so shaken by it. The police were not helpful at all.

oh god, someone actually said this to me once.
horrible old woman, said no wonder these young girls get raped these days
they go out wearing nothing.
its sick to think that way imo

I was once pickpocketed when I stopped to help some crooks who pretended they needed directions to get somewhere. How stupid of me to stop and help a stranger in need, I should have just kept my head down and ignored them. Clearly I was just 'asking' to be pickpocketed .

Once I realised what had happened, I did chase after them, grabbed them by the collar and forced them to hand my purse back. Thankfully nothing bad happened.

Not sure I'd advise anyone else to do that in future!

Thanks Speedy and TDWP.

Yeah, she probably was blundering (and we generallly have a fab relationship), but unfortunately I have heard this kind of comment wrt other similar situations.