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Mother guilty of starving daughter to death:(

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TheLeftFelanji · 25/02/2010 17:19

How does this happen...and go unnoticed by the community?

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article7040747.ece

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piscesmoon · 27/02/2010 14:11

Having read about the case properly I see that it had nothing to do with HE and the family were known to SS and had had several visits. Obviously SWs weren't forceful enough and were fobbed off. To my mind this is what makes their job so difficult-they are in trouble if things go wrong and they weren't forceful, but equally in trouble if they are too forceful when they don't need to be. Without a crystal ball I don't see how they can get it right all the time.

' She wasn't being educated at home. She was being kept away from school by a madwoman.'

I was really interested in this comment earlier. The problem is-who decides that this is the case? I don't think that you can have a system where someone decides to deregister and one person is told, 'you can't you are a madwoman' and someone else is told 'fine, we know you are an emotionally stable, concerned parent'. You can't have someone playing God. You have to give everyone the same freedom, but I just question whether you leave them completely alone? Who decides who is mad and where do you draw a line? As it happens it seems to get left to the SWs in the end and woe betide them if they draw their line in the wrong place!

SolidGoldBrass · 27/02/2010 21:55

Piscesmoon: it's my understanding that she didn't deregister the poor kid, she just kept her away from school. Also, where SS have already been repeatedly informed of concerns about a child, that's different from a case where someone deregisters their child in order to home ed.

piscesmoon · 27/02/2010 23:17

I read that she deregistered the children from school, the teachers were upset but there was nothing they could do, except inform the authorities of their worries. (I accept that you can't believe everything you read.)

sarah293 · 28/02/2010 06:58

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edam · 28/02/2010 12:40

Tilly, that makes it even more poignant. Your brother and his colleagues must be distraught.

I had safeguarding training at ds's school recently (just a very basic talk from a SW for new parent helpers). SW pointed out the whole system where school MUST report any concerns came out of the death of a little girl from our county. She'd moved to another area when she died, but was being abused by her father and stepmother who didn't feed her and beat her black and blue. Stepmother was a helper at the school and claimed the girl had brittle bone disease. Everyone could see how thin and how bruised she was but no-one did anything. IIRC that poor child died of starvation too.

Appalling that despite all the changes, many of which are wrong-headed but at least are intended as a safety net, something very similar has happened again.

dilemma456 · 05/03/2010 20:28

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