Very sad! G.P commits suicide over failure to conceive a second child

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250172/Doctor-wanted-child-hanged-IVF-failed.html

Thus poor woman must have been desperate, but I also feel very sorry for the daughter she left behind! I am not starting this thread to be controversial I just think it must be awful to be so desperate for another child that suicide seems the only option.

It's the Daily Mail.

Why does it matter that she is a GP

And is that the real reason?

Sensationalist crap imo.

But yes it's very sad whatever the reasons.

How selfish of her !

Poor little girl... Oh that's so heartbreaking.

Someone so mentally ill shouldn't have been having IVF surely? I have to believe she was not of sound mind, as the only other option is a message to her daughter of 'I'd rather be dead than only have you' which is so horrific I can barely contemplate it.

ttc is hell. poor woman

Exactly I39, there must be more to this story than that.

she probably didn't appear mentally ill. she probably went private. ttc is all a bit of a threadmill, british medicine is not known for its holistic approach.

i won't do ivf because is worry about the effect i might have on my mental health

I don't understand there must be more to the story. I can understand the heartache of not being to conceive but you don't leave a child motherless because of it.

have you had fertility problems?

what is the point of labelling her selfish? She's dead ffs

Awful for all concerned

and mental health issues are not always visible - people get very good at disguising how they are feeling and sometimes even their loved ones don't know until things reach crisis point or worse.

Yes I have had fertility problems.

As have I.

Suicide when you have young children is horribly selfish.

i don't think it is selfish i think the whole thing is tragic

Yes it is tragic

HOW can people be calling this poor woman selfish for god's sake on the strength of a bloody Daily Mail story. WHY are people so quick to condemn a complete stranger who has been driven to kill herself. I haven't read the story but there will be far more to it than what you read in the DM. Why do people believe everything they read.

Have any of you posters calling this poor woman selfish have any experience of mental health problems - think I've answered that myself to be honest, because if you had any idea of the awfulness and the terrified feelings and total despair related to mental illness you wouldn't make such comments.

What NanaNina said.

The act of committing suicide is selfish. There's no doubt about it; a person who does that is thinking about themselves and their situation and not really about the people left behind, But it's difficult to label the person as selfish because the thought processes leading up to her actually doing it are so messed up by her mental state. Poor woman.

I expect there's more to it but you have to feel sad for the child left behind. She'll maybe feel she wasn't a worthy enough reason to hang on to life

That poor, poor woman. I think it's rather uncalled for to say she was selfish. If I was to go purely by the details in the details in the article, I would say that she overestimated her resilience. Never done IVF myself, but understand that a woman is pumped full of hormones before being sent on a rollercoaster ride of hope and depair. If she had arranged for someone to be with her for the day, she would probably not have acted rashly on her heightened emotions, and instead had a chance to calm down and get some perspective.

I think there has to be more to this

other mental health issues are at play here

I have undergone infertility treatment and was told at one time I would never conceive

at no time did I ever feel suicidal...sad, resentful, angry, hopeless, etc etc ad infinitum, never suicidal

especially after I eventually had my first and tried for another...I cannot understand how you could leave one longed-for child behind

this is not the full story

its ridiculous to call suicide selfish though so many people do.

No-one (or rarely) who commits suicide is of a "sound mind" they aren't thinking of anything much other than that they can't continue as they are. I know of cases where people think are doing the unselfish thing as their families will be better off without them.

I have had repeated and unsuccessful IVF and whilst I never felt suicidal, it's not a process I would wish on my worst enemy. And I am as tough as old boots.

If someone is so depressed/mentally ill that they feel the need to commit suicide then they genuinely believe its the best thing to do. They are not being selfish, they are simply terribly ill. Sometimes they feel its the least selfish thing for them to do as they may feel like SUCH a burden/failure that people are better without them.

This is very difficult for people who have not felt like that/worked with people who have felt like that to understand.

Poor lady, and poor family left behind

the fact she was a GP has fuck-all to do with it

How sad but I agree there must be more to it than this.
I have suffered terribly from depression in the past and have been suicidal at times..... the kids were the only things that stopped me from doing anything. I dont think my thoughts were selfish.... I wasnt me.... I was ill.

very true spooks

and btw the counselling you recieve (in my experience) is minimal and not at all difficult to convince them you are stable and able to deal with IVF particularly if you are a medical professional and know what they're looking for.

IMO the fact that she was a GP should make it less newsworthy not more, don;t doctors have the second or third highest rate of suicide of any profession?