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Home schooling parents to face criminal records check

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atlantis · 30/11/2009 02:02

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231947/Home-schooling-parents-criminal-checks-ensure-theyre-paedop hiles.html

Mr Balls is a fine one to talk about criminal activity with all the flipping and expenses fiddling him and his wife have been doing, maybe someone should take his children away from him for their own safety.

For god sake can we have an election NOW.

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DollyPS · 30/11/2009 02:09

oops I put it up as well and it is all wrong in my book and that man needs the ruddy sack and now.

We wont be allowed out of the door soon without all sorts of checks done.

seeker · 30/11/2009 06:06

It was in a written report to a committee - it doesn't say that it's going to be implemented.

And it's also reported by the Daily Mail- not a paper particularly good at getting the right end of the stick - I wouldn't panic just yet!

WhatDidISayRoy · 30/11/2009 06:42

How ridiculous. So the children of paedophile parents who attend school are ok then?

zazizoma · 30/11/2009 06:45

Perhaps the first midwife visit for a new pregnancy should include a CRB check as well, and one wouldn't be permitted to keep the child there was a record. This is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard, and I've heard a lot of ridiculous education policy.

FlamingoBingo · 30/11/2009 08:56

See here - it is OFSTED recommendations.

Non-home educators really, really need to join in this battle now - this is not about home education but about a serious erosion of our civil liberties and of our rights as parents to bring up our children as we see fit.

This is wrong, wrong, wrong on so many counts.

MillyMollyMoo · 30/11/2009 09:04

Ofstead that'll be the same organisation who liased with the police and social services about the treatment of my child at the hands of a childminder (who allowed her boyfriend to kick my child and lock her outside in the rain - aged 3 - whilst her sisters had to watch) and decided that they would take no action. Bastards.
The police couldn't prosecute as it was 6 months before the child could talk about it they were that scarred and SS felt it would be more upsetting to bring it all up again, so Ofstead were our only hope of preventing this happening again, but NO.

sarah293 · 30/11/2009 09:18

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dilemma456 · 30/11/2009 09:37

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MillyMollyMoo · 30/11/2009 09:40

Maybe we start issuing licenses to people before they are permitted to have children, I can think of plenty of people I don't think should be allowed a pet nevermind a child, but they have more than 2.
And proof of means of supporting them.
Wouldn't you want to know if the man you were planning to have a child with had a conviction for looking at child porn or violence ?
I know at least one person who was beaten by her partner and then found out he'd nearly killed his first wife and daughter.

sarah293 · 30/11/2009 09:42

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LoveBeingAMummy · 30/11/2009 09:44

FFS

pofacedandproud · 30/11/2009 09:48

the lack of logic is just silly. either all parents should be CRB checked or none. Children who go to school are still at home at nights and weekends. The logic behind this is that parents who want to HE their children are hiding something, and have an sinister motive.

me23 · 30/11/2009 09:51

of ffs, I despair I really do.

PfftTheMagicDragon · 30/11/2009 09:55

This is so bizarre it's untrue (if only!)

Surely, the goverment thinks that all parents should have CRB checks? No? Then why home-edders? Are they any closer to children than any other parent?

Is this the next step? CRBs for everyone?

ShrinkingViolet · 30/11/2009 09:57

what's even more ridiculous is that they are saying that it's OK to have your child at home till they're 5, but as soon as they turn 5, somehow you become a danger and must be CRBed.

MillyMollyMoo · 30/11/2009 09:58

Well the point with home edders is that "they" think the children do not come into contact with anyone who would pick up abuse which is why "they" want this introducing.
The "problem" is that currently nobody but the police and HMRC can enter your home by force and the proposed plan is that council employees would have that right too, along side this CRB check.

MillyMollyMoo · 30/11/2009 10:00

Again shrinkingviolet "they" would like all children in nursery by 3, if you're a family in need then 2 would be prefered, so this law would allow them to consider 3 to be the normal age to be in the system and if your child is not then you'd be considered a home educator from the age of 3.

ShrinkingViolet · 30/11/2009 10:05

don't think the proposed Bill changes the "compulosry school age", but I agree that "they" want children in state nurseries as early as possible, then us parents can be forced out to work to be "economically productive".

octopusinabox · 30/11/2009 10:09

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pofacedandproud · 30/11/2009 10:14

I think I might vote Tory for the first time in my life. would rather vote Lib Dem but have they got a chance? Probably not. Whether the Conservatives will just go ahead anyway though I do not know.

MillyMollyMoo · 30/11/2009 10:18

It doesn't change the complusary school age, but i've had 3 summer babies you try getting a school to allow you to wait until the term that child turns 5, no chance.
I would bet my last dime that 3 year olds not attending nursery would be seen as being home educated and therefore subject to pressure and checks until they were.

nickschick · 30/11/2009 10:35

I dont know if im misunderstanding this or not- but as a home educator who is qualified to work in school too then I have no objections to any checks the government might wish to make on me ......but by opting out that means I receive no support or guidance then surely if we are to be CRB checked(and we all know how reliable they are ) so if I am suddenly having to become all 'legal and oftsted approved then surely the government should pay me to teach my dc at home??

After all if he were in school there would be funds allocated there towards his education? well Id welcome those pennies .

This is absolutely farcical a home educated child meets with far more people in the real world in a day than a conventially educated child.

By the way I also have a dc at secondary school and another in college so would I need a full CRB check ......

Litchick · 30/11/2009 12:22

The government seem to take the view that all parents are feckless and that our children should be removed from our control.
They know better don't you know.

But let's think, the governemnt are the de facto parent of thousands and thousand of children in the care system...and they're not exactly looking after them very well are they.

Mr Balls, you look after the kids who really need your help, and we'll look after our own kids ta very much.

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