Is it just me or is this horrid re the man who died caving

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Just read about this and the more I think about it the more horrible it seems.

Story here

Can't imagine how horrid his family must feel, I think I'd be gutted at the thought of his body stuck there forever

Poor guy and his family, so sad considering he only ended up in the town to tell his family he and his wife were going to have another baby.

We've got a similar story in this country, up in the Peak district.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Moss_(caver)
Caving or spelunking is always a high-risk activity

I don't know, something poetic about it in a way.

Both terrible stories. Caving is a high risk hobby, but even so, I always think having no 'body' to mourne must make it so much worse.

Never heard of that one Goblin, so sad for everyone involved.

I cannot begin to imagine the fear those men must have felt and again in both cases they were almost freed but a technical fault (rope and a cable) sealed their fate.

Agree Cheery I think that's what makes me think it sounds so horrid.

The PC-soft side of me wants to shout ban all these kinds of sports when I see things like this but my sensible side knows that many enjoy it and it's probably just as risky for an experienced caver to go exploring as it si for any normal person to cross the road etc.

I don't think humanity would have advanced very far if it wasn't for that drive in some people to take risks, to explore and to seek adventure - we'd probably all still be in caves otherwise

My boy loves the idea of becoming a spelunker, so it is a real concern for me. It is likely that in a few years. he'll be crawling around the Peak district.
But life is fairly high-risk if you want to live rather than exist. All I can give him is the opportunity to be as trained and skilled as possible.

very sad, and took him a long time to die. horrible.

how sad for his family ,but his brother seems to have been able to put a positive spin on it.

spelunking?

We call it caving, in the US it tends to be called spelunking so I've heard both used.
Still means crawling on your belly, often through minute tunnels with a possibility of entering a space big enough to stand up in.
And being very damp.

How sad.

I went caving on school trips, and my friends used to go with their venture scout unit. If a school proposed it for a school trip now I really wouldn't want my dcs to go - is that wrapping them up in cotton wool too much? I'm generally quite chilled about things like abseiling, climbing etc (although I apprecaite that they are high risk too).....just caving .

I think I'm just a 'no risk' person... and yes I know that's sad

I admire people who have the balls to do these kind of things but not for me I'm afraid... anyway I'm afraid of the dark so not sur ethat a cav would be the best place for me.

Ugh - I'm not good with the idea of confined spaces underground. Never in a million years would you get me in that sort of place, I feel sick just thinking about it!

Poor family, how terrible to be hopeful and then to know you will never see him again

It must be awful for the family, but they do know where his body is.

I do think it would be wrong to risk lives removing his body.

What an awful way to go

But doesn't it kind of go with the territory(thrill even ?) of high risk sports. Mountaineers are regularly left to die where a rescue attempt would put more lives at risk.

Bloody horrible way to die, poor bloke would have known he was going.

nasty, though probably similar to those that go up everest. people walk by them when they're still not dead!

It is sad, but not an unexpected outcome when you do extreme sports (the danger is what makes them extreme and also what causes the exhilaration).

It would be very wrong to risk someone else's life to retrieve his body, he is already dead.