4Yr old stabbed to death - so sad.

[Marioandluigi]

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So sad.

Evil comes to mind, no excuses, no bleeding hearts for a parent to kill their child deserves nothing more than an eye for an eye, let the punishment fit the crime.

Thats very,very sad.Is there a history of mental illness for him to do that?

I dont beleive in an eye for an eye,what civilised country would advocate stabbing the father to death?

I think if I can recall all the most recent similar cases similar to this, there had been some significant mental health problems with the perpetrators.

Stories like this are gut-wrenchingly sad.

The last moments of that baby boy - these things make me wonder why the mother didn't get out earlier. You are not telling me there wasn't violence in this family before her 4 year old baby was killed by his father yesterday in her presence, and that the history of violence was never aimed at the kids (as well as herself). OK if there was no domestic violence shelter or similar in the area although I struggle to believe this can be the case for central London. Bermondsey must have some kind of domestic violence support services.
I always try to rationalise these things but I know there is no point. It is just the tip of the iceberg as 2 children are killed thro neglect or violence every week in the UK

I have a 4yo DD, it really upsets me to think of a kid her age being murdered... just so wrong

"these things make me wonder why the mother didn't get out earlier."

Lets not blame the victim here. If you are in a DV relationship it's not simply a matter of getting to a DV shelter, it's being able to realise and accept you need help that's the problem, something that abusers know how to prevent happening.

This tragic and horrific death is why I think MN needs to support Women's Aid as one of their causes.

poor poor child

Apparently the family were regular church goers and not known to social services. So so sad.

This happened to my best friend's little sister when I was in 6th form.

Her sister was five years old and murdered by her father who then committied suicide (although not witnessed by the mother).

He had a long history of mental health problems and her mother showed such strength and forgiveness. She buried them together.

dizietsma I agree and I am not really "blaming" the victim. Of course it is not black and white, it is not a straight forward case of moving to a domestic violence shelter at the first sign of violence. I guess what I am saying is if the reason she didn't consider it previously was because of the lack of a woman's shelter or equivalent support, lets have lots more women's shelters or investment in them. If the reason was lack of confidence or not realising she and her children were in danger lets have more of the teaching 5 year olds at school that violence against women is never acceptable (as per the new item today). Controversially I would also suggest that the woman is also partly responsible for the safety of her children notwithstanding that she herself might be a victim herself (as was the case here she was stabbed in the neck). Perhaps we need to be teaching GIRLS in schools that if they find themselves in a violent relationship they should get out before children even come along and if they cannot and children come along they should take advice (in secret if necessary) as to what options are open to them to make sure their children (and they) are safe.

Agree that kids should be taught about DV in school. Not just girls, but boys too. I was impressed to learn that the American Girl Scouts have a Healthy Relationships badge, and some areas even do a Domestic Violence Awareness Badge (warning- pdf). That sort of thing combined with schools teaching awareness and what to do if your parents/friend/self are in an abusive relationship should be mandatory. It's like the "feeling yes, feeling no" programs, it ought to be taught young, and we should not shy away from it because it's an unpleasant subject to talk to kids about. So many kids live with the reality of domestic violence we just cannot ignore it this way any longer. No while kids and mothers are dying.