This is the news

[ChocolateMoose]

Scientists say that global temperatures are on a path to rise by an average of 6C by the end of the century: www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/17/global-temperature-rise.
And temperature rises of much less than 6C still mean global catastrophe: www.marklynas.org/2009/5/5/climate-change-explained-the-impact-of-temperature-rises

In our children's lifetimes. In our lifetimes, even. Why are we all sticking our collective fingers in our ears and going 'la la la I can't hear you'. What are we going to tell our children when they ask why we couldn't be bothered to do anything while it was still possible to stop this?

Anyone who does care -

1. Come to the demos in London and Glasgow on December 5th if you can, to put pressure on governments negotiating a climate treaty in Copenhagen.
2. Sign this petition www.foe.co.uk/climatetalks/petition.html
3. Write to your MP e-activist.com/ea-campaign/clientcampaign.do?ea.client.id=18&ea.campaign.id=4728
4. Nosy around websites like Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace to see what else you can do.
5. Try and cut your own carbon footprint - fly less, cut your electricity bills (see Energy Saving Trust website), eat less meat. Etc.

Or just try not to think about it, but then don't say no one told you. And sorry to be intolerant, but if you think human-caused climate change is a myth, please start your own conspiracy theory thread and don't post here.

Rant ends here. Going to look at my baby son fast asleep and hope like hell we manage to stop this happening though it's not looking likely at the moment.

Have you been drinking?

Wow heavy

We don't drive or eat much meat Never, ever fly

Not because of climate change just because we are too poor and phobic!

this is a joke, right?

we know

I was tempted to just post "la la la we can't hear you" but clearly that would have been flippant.

No I'd not been drinking, just reading more and more about the mainstream, accepted climate science. Things like the permafrost melting, releasing methane which is a greenhouse gas, so the world heats up more, releasing more methane etc. Translation: if the world doesn't reduce greenhouse gas emissions fast, we're toast.

And it's easier to have a rant on MN than to go on about this to my friends in RL, which is what I'd do if I had a bit more courage, because it's so depressing, and no one wants to think about it. I can do a few things, get involved with campaigning, which is fun and makes me feel like I'm at least trying, but it's like being in a little bubble where everyone 'gets' it, and then for all my other friends, it's just another 'issue', like crime and health, and not taken that seriously.

So I know people come on here, like I do usually, for a bit of a relaxing break - apologies for the doom and gloom. If someone reads my post and thinks they might actually do something like sign the petition, then I think it's worth it though.

It was worth a try. I shall now go and do cheerful, normal everyday things and forget all about this for a while.