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Another waco in the making?

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lou33 · 15/06/2005 23:58

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Flossam · 16/06/2005 00:02

Just asks me to sign in Lou.

lou33 · 16/06/2005 00:04

goes straight through for me floss.

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lou33 · 16/06/2005 00:05

Sect expels 1000 boys so men get more wives
June 15, 2005

Washington: Up to 1000 teenage boys have been separated from their parents and thrown out of their communities by a polygamous sect to make more young women available for older men, Utah state officials allege.

Many of the so-called "Lost Boys", some as young as 13, were dumped on the side of the road in Arizona and Utah by leaders of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and told they will never see their families again or go to heaven.

The 10,000-strong sect, which broke away from the Mormon church in 1890 when the mainstream faith disavowed polygamy, believes a man must marry at least three women to go to heaven. The sect appeared to be in turmoil on Monday after its assets were frozen and a warrant was issued in Arizona for the arrest of its authoritarian leader, Warren Jeffs, for arranging a wedding between an under-age girl and a 28-year-old man who was already married.

Jeffs is being sued by lawyers for six of the Lost Boys for purging surplus males from the community, and by his nephew Brent Jeffs, who has accused him of sexual abuse. Utah state officials believe Jeffs may be in hiding in a sect compound near Eldorado, Texas, and they have warned that cornering him could provoke a tragedy like the 1993 siege of the Branch Davidian sect in Waco, Texas.

Jim Hill, an investigator in Utah's attorney-general's office, said on Monday: "From everything I've been able to discern about Warren Jeffs, he is someone who is capable of some very different things. Whether that includes a mass suicide, I don't know. But I worry about it all the time."

Sect leaders have argued that the Lost Boys were exiled because they were teenage delinquents who refused to keep the sect's rules. A state investigator, Jim Hill, said their expulsion had more to do with the ruthless sexual arithmetic of a polygamous sect.

"Obviously if you're going to have three to one or four to one female to male marriages, you're going to run out of females," he said. "The way of taking care of it is selectively casting out those you don't want to be in the religion."

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Gwenick · 16/06/2005 00:09

and

Flossam · 16/06/2005 00:09

Just signed up lou when you posted. Sounds shocking. I hope things can get resolved there peacefully. Cults are almost never nice, are they? Why aren't they?

BigGayDad · 16/06/2005 00:12

I tell you something any man who has three wives deserves to go to heaven. I mean three mil's!!

lou33 · 16/06/2005 00:14
Grin
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sallystrawberry · 16/06/2005 00:17

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Gwenick · 16/06/2005 00:17

what you mean like this guy???

lou33 · 16/06/2005 00:19

25 kids?!!!!!

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Jayzmummy · 16/06/2005 00:22

My dad was a Mormon!

BigGayDad · 16/06/2005 00:22

At that point I'd be numbering them. I had enough trouble with names for two!!

Gwenick · 16/06/2005 00:23

yes 25 - mind you did you see at the bottom of that article - when his father died he'd notched up an impressive 70 wives!!

lou33 · 16/06/2005 00:23

am aghast that anyone however wealthy, and with neverending staff, would still want 25 kids!

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lou33 · 16/06/2005 00:24

shakes head in disbelief

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BigGayDad · 16/06/2005 00:24

70 wives!! Bloody 'ell did he give them dates rather than names!

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Gwenick · 16/06/2005 00:24

oh just found out from answers.com - that his dad had 210 children

BigGayDad · 16/06/2005 00:25

You'd need a lot of practise with 70 wives and 25 kids or whatever it was!!

Jayzmummy · 16/06/2005 00:26

Yes. Very devote until the day he died. caused massive rifts in the family because he truely believed the teachings of the church.
I was even baptised.....but got ex communicated when I left home at 17 to head for the bright lights of London!!!!

lou33 · 16/06/2005 00:26

omg gwen, that is unbelieveable!

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Gwenick · 16/06/2005 00:28

yes - the 210 children were concieved between 1920 and 1970 - so there was a 50yr gap between the oldest and youngest child!!!!!!

Sorry - kind of hijacked your thread......BGD's fault for talking about lots of wives.

Jayzmummy · 16/06/2005 00:30

My dads oldest child is now 62 and his youngest is 30. Im in the midle at almost 37. There are 9 of us all together and he had two wives, though not at the same time!

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