Has MN done this?? LUSH cosmetics fund Hunt Saboteurs

[Macdog]

www.lush.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&id=17717&catid=&view=article

[FiveGoMadonTheDanceFloor]

No Reality it isn't, the hunts also do a very good service of picking up deadstock from the local farms which otherwise would be dumped.

[EccentricaGallumbats]

sorry five but i do believe that is bollocks. I fairly certain that if not fed to hunt dogs farmers all over the country would not be dumping dead cows at the sde of the roads.

[unfitmother]

Another good reason to buy more in Lush!

[FiveGoMadonTheDanceFloor]

No they bury them in pits (or skips) otherwise, it is just a useful service especially since DEFRA has brought in new redtape guidelines about how you can dispose of deadstock.

[stuffitllllama]

me too, no balaclavas in those days though

the village milk and postie vans would be out to block us on the lanes a couple of miles out

agree with fortyplus about the cross-class thing, but I thought it was much more toffs on horses and the "villagers" following

now I don't really care about hunting, there are a million things worse in the world

[starwhoreswonaprize]

Another reason to buy LUSH for me and Dominos support Pro life..... never buy Dominos.

People who hunt enjoy chasing an animal within an inch of it's life and then watch it being ripped to shreds, horrid horrid people....

[bronze]

I don't like hunting for sport and I'm a bit of a rural campaigner at heart but until Lush stop with the rolling five year rule business I have no respect for them

[MitchyInge]

I started a thread about this in the tack room the other day.

[bronze]

rolling 5 year rule

[Macdog]

Didn't know about the Lush 5 year rule either.

I liked Lush Products. but will no longer be buying from them.

I dread to think that the money given to anti-hunt groups could lead to another incident like the murder of Trevor Morse

[ABetaDad]

Agree with fortyplus.

My feeling is that the entire hunt 'sabs' thing is about 'class war'. The Labour party were obsessed with it as they are now with Cameron going to Eton. Virtually nothing to do with people caring about animals.

The local hunt used to come across my Dad's land. The country people had done it for years, local farmers and the like were very respectful and my Dad knew most of them but unfortunately there was an increasing number of hunt followers who came up from London and did not have a link to the countryside. Showed no respect for the people whose land they rode across, left gates open, scared cattle and sheep. My Dad eventually banned the followers (people on horseback) but let the hounds, Master and Whipper In' follow the fox.

The 'sabs' were equally urban in their outlook as the 'London followers'. They were two sides of the same coin. If it had stayed a private country pursuit for country folk no one would have bothered to ban it.

Cannot understand what Lush are doing.

[Morosky]

I agree BetaDad.

[starwhoreswonaprize]

AbetaDad....rubbish people who sabotage hunting do care about the animals.

[starwhoreswonaprize]

There are many poor twats people as well as rich twats who hunt.

[nighbynight]

They are probably poor becaue they have paid the costs of a horse, tack, clothes, box, hunt subscription etc.

[nighbynight]

and BetaDad, I grew up in a rural community, and most of the farmers didnt like the hunt, the local MFH was cordially loathed by all, but not a single farmer was brave enough to break ranks with the rest of the lodge and bar the hunt.

[SueW]

Lush have cast aside the 5 year rule:

"* We buy raw materials from any company that can sign a declaration saying they test none of their raw materials on animals now and have no plans to do so in the future"

Look further down this page to see the background, cast aside bit is v close to the bottom.

Domino's doesn't support pro-life orgs but its founder did. He sold up completely in 1998 though. Even so, it wasn't company funds he donated but from his own money, earned through the company. That's like saying if I decided to support a charity, it was my employer that was making the donation. And that's not right, even if I do it through Give As You Earn.

[BobbingForPeachys]

I can understand what Lush are doing, and it's not black or white.

I totally support spraying ciitronella and protesting- very withion their rights. Direst action not so much, but not all sabs do that IME.

Like abetadad I grew up in the countryside and my experience is different; my Uncle whose smallholding was declared no go to the hunt and then who was threatened for it; the two incidents I know of where ambulances oculdn't access people in need (one a home with aheart attack (friend's mum), one a unit for severe LD I worked at where someone was having a severe epileptic fit).... both cases requests to shift said car were met with refusals.

Generally I actively support legal hunting becuase I loathe the illegal side so much, as Riven (IIRC) said if you want to kill a fox use a gun. but I also actively support the protests because legal protesting is a Good Thing. It's apathy Iloathe, not opinions.

We don't seem to have a hunting tradition where I live now- thank goodness! the ones where we lived were notorious.

[MitchyInge]

waves to macdog long time no land rover porn!

[dave44]

"Macdog - I dread to think that the money given to anti-hunt groups could lead to another incident like the murder of Trevor Morse"

It might be convenient to say it was murder, but we don't know the facts yet and nobody has been convicted.