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Dinner lady is sacked for telling parents their DD was tied up and beaten with a skipping rope, but no-one else is sacked for not having told the truth to the parents about the incident

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HerBeatitude · 23/09/2009 22:13

farkin ada

The school underplayed the incident to such an extent that what they actually said was a lie. Isn't it nice to be reassured that if your child gets attacked at school, the school will lie about it to you and sack anyone who tells you?

I'm so gobsmacked by this. I really hope she wins her appeal.

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AnyFucker · 24/09/2009 07:06

really ???

nickschick · 24/09/2009 07:17

This is just one incident.

My own ds was stabbed in the face with a pencil

The headteacher chose to tell me that it was a fingernail and my ds had started the fight.....

I found out by hearing the other boys mother boasting about it in the corner shop.

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God bless that dinner lady!!!

purepurple · 24/09/2009 07:26

Hurrah for the dinner lady.
I wonder if the head has children of his own?

DorotheaPlenticlew · 24/09/2009 07:27
Sad
foxinsocks · 24/09/2009 07:28

bloody hell

my son was tied up with a skipping rope and hit repeatedly with the wooden handle on the end (this boy sat on him so he couldn't get up)

we weren't given the full details but were told there had been a 'serious incident involving a head injury' and the parents of the other child had been called in

It does seem to me that schools down play these incidents. We were told the other child 'didn't mean it' and his parents apologised to us (they were mortified to be fair) but she was full of 'I'm sure he didn't mean it, they were only playing' . I don't think the school dealt with it too badly I suppose but I was still incredibly shocked by the incident and the fact that it wasn't taken more seriously.

I hope she wins her appeal too. It's about time that these sorts of cases got publicity tbh because they go on in schools all the time!

foxinsocks · 24/09/2009 07:31

and why on earth has the vicar got anything to do with it! Appalling! I'm not religious in any way but you'd hope he might have some sort of moral compass!

nickschick · 24/09/2009 07:43

If its a church school they tend to have the local priest/vicar/minister on the board -actually I think most schools do.

When I applied to become a parent governor the priest opted to walk out with me -after the votes had been counted (i didnt win-)and funnily enough I wasnt surprised when the caretaker told me he had found loads of voting slips that were 'mine' waiting to be shredded......they so didnt need someone like me on the govs .

BrigitBigKnickers · 24/09/2009 07:47

Outrageous!

Sack the head and promote the dinner lady- sounds like she is what the school needs!

FlamingoDuBeke · 24/09/2009 07:49

Nickschick

And also very, very and . We are meant to be able to trust these twats with our children day in and day out.

nickschick · 24/09/2009 07:54

Thats a lot to do with why I H.E ds3.

Bad isnt it?

FlamingoDuBeke · 24/09/2009 07:56

And whenever I read these things I just think 'thank goodness we do HE'!

In fact, MN in general is very good at reminding me why I'm doing it if I ever forget . I know that school can be fab for children, and MN is probably disproportionately negative about school because why would you post about non-problems. But just the fact that the problems exist, and the fact you can't decide whether or not they're going to happen, is enough to make me really, really glad my DCs aren't in school.

nickschick · 24/09/2009 08:02

Yet flamingo this isnt the first incident we had with primary school at another school a teacher bullied my elder son!! and was eventually given early retirement.....its not that I go looking for these problems -funnily enough at both schools I was offered paid employment and both schools had me CRB checked so I could help them at short notice 'voluntarily' and I was often asked to sit with classes until supply teachers arrived ,so I think if they could treat me like that -how the heck would they treat children of other parents???.

TheBalladofGayTony · 24/09/2009 08:05

someone should have told the dad to practise his 'sad' face before the picture was taken.

horrendous story, petty little shits obviously thought they could sack a dinner lady without any fuss i bet they wish they hadn't now.

Megglevache · 24/09/2009 08:15

Outrageous. I am not surprised that they thought they could get away with it in such a small school, it's the kid of nonsence that children in my ds's school have been getting away with for years and that teachers/heads can't be arsed to deal with.

I am considering HE TBH.

FlamingoDuBeke · 24/09/2009 08:16

How old are your DCs, Megglevache? HE is great fun - we have a million reasons why we do it and love it. I don't remember if I've seen you or not on the HE topic?

Megglevache · 24/09/2009 08:25

my ds is in Yr1. What the children are allowed to get away with is shocking.

I am going to look at that topic now Flamingo.

comewhinewithme · 24/09/2009 08:26

You see now I am worried because a member of staff told me some worrying things my dd was going through at school recently.

I went into see the HT because of bullying and when she tried to fob me off I asked her why members of staff were so worried she was not impressed and although this member of staff has left my dd?s school and told me after she left, she has gone to another school and I have a feeling the HT is going to make trouble for her now.

Callisto · 24/09/2009 08:49

There is an idiot on R4 at the moment defending the school's actions - he thinks that the dinner lady should have gone through 'proper channels'.

DoNotPressTheRedButton · 24/09/2009 08:51

I have direct experience of this.

On the first occasion, ds1 was attacked by a 'mob' of 12 children; the assault ws severe enough to leave shoe shaped bruises on his legs. I was told nothing at all- it was only ds1's distress (he has a form of S but has full miobility and language) and the bruises that enabled us to go in- where and entire panel of Hed etc were waiting to fiob us off that it couldn't hapepn again- it could and it has done,albeit to a lesser level.

We ahve also been kept in the dark about ds1's aggression to toehr pupils- one aprticular inciodent left me terrified after a amssively threatening assault by a aprent when I hadnt been told a thing about what was going on- whilst i accept their distress Is till cannot see how reducing me totears about something I hadnt a clue about helped anything; indeed to this day they are adament it happened, the school has told both famillies our children are right , and ds1 is adamant nothing happened- what can you do? If the Head is telline me in front of ds nothing happned, how do I change anything?

OTOH ds2 has different teahcers at the same school and I can only applaud them; at the moment he is victim of a sustained group bullying of the lunch theft variety, and since we told her on Monday we have been getting calls with updates (main culprit unwilling to stop but being watched like a hawk it seems), and it has really boosted both mine and ds2'ssense of his safety to know they are on his side.

DS3's 1-1 TA lost her job (or ather wasn't offered another contract) after telling us about a few things that led to him being transferred to a SNU- such as crying in corners all day, the TA allocated to him being used for 4 toher children etc. That was a different school and I am still fuming over the whole thing 6 months on.

DoNotPressTheRedButton · 24/09/2009 08:53

Oh and we've not ever had an accident report despite three incidents that have led to hospital / dental treatment being requied (one epr child, they like to sahre - is it a requirement? incident A ds1'stwo front teeth snapped, DS2 had his foot stuck to the gym floor then danced tearing off skin 9yuck), ds3 fell unsupervised (grrr) and has permanent speech afecting mouth scarring- we were told noa ccident report could be seen by us?

sarah293 · 24/09/2009 08:59

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letsgostrawberrypicking · 24/09/2009 08:59

DNPTRB - oh my you and your family have had a hellish time. Your children have really gone through it at school havent they? I can only applaud your perserverence with that school!! Have things got any better for ds1?

Sunshinemambo · 24/09/2009 09:18

This really rings a bell with me. Wasn't there a thread a few months ago where this little girl's mum came on MN to complain about this?

DoNotPressTheRedButton · 24/09/2009 09:22

Yes he's fairing better atm- at the start of term he wouldnt go into the yard as the children responsible for the 'big' assault were with him for the first time in years (they ahve separate upper / lower school yards and they were a year above ds1)- I threatenined with an emergency review (AKA costing the LEA cash- guaranteed to get them in rouble ) an dhe seems happier atm, has a tendency to flare though so am ever wacthful. DS2 targeted partly becuase of ds1's SN (after years of being unrtouchable becuase of ds1, theya r enow separated in different yeards- also those upset by ds1 see ds2 as an easy pay-back iyswim), but also aprtly becuase h e is kind and won't hit back. Luckily that nature makes techers protective I think. DS3 is in an SNU now (yay!) and thriving, so just have to work ut if I can face ds4 attending there or not- I say no, DH says yes as closest school by a decent distance.

confuddledDOTcom · 24/09/2009 09:41

So it's not confidentiality it's "The dinner lady was sacked for gross misconduct in discussing a pupil outside school" what??? Can you imagine if you meet someone from the school when you're out and they blank your child because they can't discuss them out of school? If they bumped into each other and she was the one who rescued the girl you can understand her wanting to check the girl was OK. It's possible that Carol was just shook up from witnessing it, of course she wanted to check she was OK.