Forced marriage mother tries to kill her baby

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This is a tragic story for all involved

Thankfully the baby has survived

Poor baby!! The husband and his family need to be dealt with. They would have been responsible if that baby died, it makes me sick what women are driven to, it really does.

I'm interested that people are reacting so completely differently than the more frequent male equivalent cases (where the call is usually that the man in question should be strung up and/or go to hell). I can see that the situation must be a lot more complex than related by the article, and forced marriages are a terrible thing (although the article says only that it was arranged), but attempting to kill your child in any situation is surely a pretty terrible thing to do. I am sure that it was shown that the balance of her mind was turned (to get such a reduced sentence) but still.

I can't see that changing the visa rules would have made much odds here, as if this woman is 25 now she would have been 22 in 2006 when it is said she was married, and 23 when she moved to the UK.

All very sad.

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Poor poor baby. Hope she is now taken care of.
Arranged marriage make me so

It makes absolutely no difference if you're 16 or 22, if you are totally controlled by your family, then you are totally controlled by your family, I'm astonished that the home office doesn't seem intelligent enough to understand this.

Looks like this is a case of the law backing up abusive families. I think the woman should have gone to prison, but I wish that there was proper rehabilitation and counselling services in prison to help her recover, but FGS the idea that that baby should be in the care of the lunatics who are her family, is terrible.

I do think it is just EVIL to kill or try to kill a child whatever the circumstances though.

Nooka: the men who try to kill their children when they are about to be forbidden to see them are roundly condemned because it is invariably the men;s own fault that they are being denied access (ie they have already assaulted the children's mother and/or the children): they are controlling, dangerous violent bullies who are about to be taught a lesson anyway. In this woman's case it sounds as though she has been abused and mistreated by everyone around her (and was probably suffering from PND as well).

I agree that it appears the law backs up abusive families by doing nothing. One abuser is bad enough, imagine a whole family at you constantly. If the woman was sane then evil comes into it somewhere, but years of abuse can affect mental health very significantly. Diminished responsibility will surely come into it somewhere, the maternal instinct may have come out in the twisted way of trying to protect the baby. This excuse for a family are now probably saying they knew she was mental and a crap mother all along

That's the difference, Solid, yes. Some men who murder their children do so in rage that they've lost control over the situation and are no longer lord of the manor. They need to feel their partners fear, or they throw a murderous temper tantrum, the culmination of years and years of crap for the victims. After these murders the mens parents will say what a lovely chap he was, exposing their enablement of the abuse that his woman and babies had to live with.

Cruelty to her child is deplorable but surely her case is that of a modern day slave?

Why can't the husband or those responsible be done for slavery?

For once, I'm in agreement with Kerry.

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agree with SGB

yes, on face value, a mother stabbing her 8 month old appears evil

but delve beneath the surface: a young woman, a prisoner, in an forced, not arranged, but forced marriage. told she was going to be sent away from her daughter for ever. after years of emotional abuse , she snapped , to attempt to protect her daughter from suffering the same she had suffered.

i don;t thikn it is evil, but the actions of a desperate, scared and totally alone abused woman

can\t believe the child is being allowed to stay with the family, who were prepared to send the mother away from her daughter. so cold and heartless

Lulumama I agree she has been a prisoner.

I can't believe this child is allowed to stay with the family.

How can that help the child out of this awful situation?

-It really is dangerous and imo that child is at severe risk if the custody lies with a family that perpetuated slavery.

But what can the home office do in these cases?

The woman spoke no English, she probably gave a coherent and reasonable interview at the visa stage so was allowed into the country, then she's kept prisoner here, not allowed out and then when the in-laws have decided they have had enough they present her with a one way ticket out of the country.

She was scared, alone, knew nobody, does not speak the language, has nowhere to turn and faced losing her baby to the animals who kept her prisoner.

Do you know I don't quite think this may have been a forced marriage. I have heard countless stories where the in-laws treat the future daughter in law wonderfully, then once they have them in England away from family, friends and support, they show their true colours and treat these girls like slaves.

I've met lots of mums at contact centres with such tales, and most of these young women would love to return home to their families who do love them and knew nothing about the vile nature of the people their daughters married into. Except the husbands, take out injunctions and refuse the children of the family to leave this country, all the while refusing to contribute at all towards the upbringing of the child(ren), because heck a man will remarry in a trice, but these poor poor women end up in limbo, all alone in an alien country which does not allow them to take their children back with them, at the mercies of generally a horrendous ex.

I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, these are my observations in the wonderful world of contact centres....

The thing is, can she return home? I bet his family have told her relatives about what she did, which I think means she would be a pariah if she attempts to go back home, having disgraced herself and her family. Such communities take family dishonour very seriously. Honour is everything. I think there is a strong possibility her life will be in danger if she returns to Bangladesh, so where can she go? The poor woman has lost everything and god knows what the other women will do to her in prison. Forget if the Judge was Male/Female. Do you think the judges gender would have affected the sentence?

bloody hell, who gives these men injunctions like this to enable these women to be put in such positions?

awful, awful. Like edam, I really hope one of the charity groups takes up her case, otherwise she has no hope poor woman. She also needs mental health help which I doubt she's going to get now.

Exactly Dittany, times have changed my arse.

she wont be able to return home. and it wont surprise me if she ends up succedding in committing suicide.
i second everything fuzzy says. and its not just the girls who cant speak english who get treated like this. when your in a new country, no friends no family, have just given birth, the emotions, the hormones, and the abuse will turn even a confident, career woman into a pile of quivering nerves. i know someon who is a qualified dentist, had this happen to her.