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eidsvold · 02/05/2003 18:52

How curious to read that a number of medical staff are not having the MMR jab but preferring to have the single vaccines.

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CP · 02/05/2003 19:12

Interesting... We have gone for the triple MMR jab and dd is due for her booster on Wednesday - better keep the Calpol to hand.

judetheobscure · 02/05/2003 19:13

goodness knows why they are choosing to have single vaccines when there is no evidence to prove they are any safer.

CP · 02/05/2003 19:32

Agree, even the chap who did the research which caused the controversy has admitted that his research was flawed. I hate giving her injections at the best of times so could not go for 'triple' the agony by having them done seperately.

Lennon · 03/05/2003 08:08

judetheobscure - at last someone who dares actually say...there is no compelling evidence that single jabs are safer! I though I was the only one. You made my day!

musica · 03/05/2003 08:39

Just as the private/state discussion heads toward the yurt...

WideWebWitch · 03/05/2003 09:27

Ha Ha, exactly Musica! Not getting involved in this one

Batters · 03/05/2003 12:03

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Jimjams · 03/05/2003 19:44

And what about Tony Blair????

Nope better not get involved in this one- anyway there's an autistic tantrum going on in the background. Think dh needs help.

Claireandrich · 03/05/2003 22:06

Oh no! Please no more debates until after Wednesday! DD is due her MMR that morning. We live in Sheffield and the clinic that did the single jabs was one of the ones that was closed down. Made our choice a bit easier for us I guess but still dreading it. Just want it done now and out of the way.

Jimjams · 03/05/2003 22:34

Good luck claireandrich. Can I just give my standard MMR advice? Delay giving if dd has recently had chickenpox- or especially if she could be incubating chickenpox.

Right I think I need to find the yurt quickly.

Claireandrich · 04/05/2003 11:53

No contact with chicken pox that I know of, so fingers crossed! With her being at nursery I am keen to get it down - just in case really (but part of me is still so concerned with the MMR debate).

Jimjams · 04/05/2003 12:44

oh it's always a nightmare claireandrich- whichever way you go. The only question you have to answer really is - which scares you most- the disease or the vaccine? - and then act accordingly. Everyone will reach their own conclusions - which will depend on indivdual circumstances.

Apart from the chickenpox advice- the only other thing I say comes from my list of 'things I which I'd known earlier' and that is don't vaccinate with anything during an eczema flare-up.

leander · 04/05/2003 14:09

i WAS TOTALLY UNDECIDED ON THE MMR,I asked for advice on here and still couldn't make up my mind.I asked all my friends and family and not one of them had given their kids the single jabs.I read all the literature i could and couldn't find any proven evidence that the singles are safer,so I decided to go with the mmr and my ds had his 2 weeks ago ,he has just developed a measle like rash behind his ear but apart from this he has been fine.

Khara · 04/05/2003 15:38

Jimjams - my ds is recovering from chickenpox. How long would you reckon I should leave it before thinking about his MMR?

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eidsvold · 04/05/2003 16:23

i did not mean to start a pro or con argument regarding MMR just making an obervation really.

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Claireandrich · 04/05/2003 18:39

Does anyone know if Dd is likely to have any form of reaction after her MMR? Is one common? I have only booked the morning off work to take her and then plan to take her to nursery for the afternoon. Some one mentioned to me that any reaction could be 2 or 3 weeks after - true? Cheers in advance!

SofiaAmes · 04/05/2003 20:30

The official advice is that if there is going to be a reaction it will be about 10 days later or so. My ds didn't even cry when he got his. (he was too busy batting his eyes at the nurse).

Jimjams · 04/05/2003 20:36

Hi khara- this is just from some informal chats with the people at the Autsism Research Unit at Sunderland. They don't really give "official" advice- so I'll just try and give a summary.

They have noticed that some of the supposedly MMR damaged children (and they can kind of check- as these kiddies seem to have different compounds in their urine from other autistic children- which is different again form the majority of "normal" children) have been unfortunate enough to have their MMR and then have chickenpox say a couple of weeks later. Within a short time period anyway. There is some research that shows that catching wild chickenpox and mumps (I think- could be measles- this is off the top of my head) in the same year increases the risk of autism. So if you wanted to be incredibly incredibly safe then 1 year- but that's almost certainly overcautious. I have heard 6 months mentioned as well.

I haven't spoken to the ARU for a while so there may be more recent research clarifying the situation. There is a link for the ARU (several) under the MMR thread. Or you can search in google- they're easy to find. They do provide some info about the MMR there. You could always contact them and ask what the latest thinking is. They won't give you vaccination advice (obviously that would be wrong) but they would probably be happy to point you in the direction of the latest research to help you make up your mind.

Really hope this reply doesn't start a debate as I really don't want to go there!

Slinky · 04/05/2003 21:06

Jim Jams!

You've got me worried now!

DD2 (age 3.5) had her Preschool boosters last week - no problems. But this week (unbeknown to me) she has come into close contact with chicken pox, which she hasn't had before.

Have you got any links etc where I can read up about it?

Jimjams · 04/05/2003 21:18

Oh no I don't want to worry people! Slinky I'm sure she'll be fine- the children who are at risk of these sorts of things tend to have strong family histories of autoimmune conditions as well.

Plus the fact that pre-school booster is less of a worry. Assuming the MMR worked the first time (which it probably did) then there would be no problem with coming into contact with it now- as the virus in the vaccine will just be quickly mopped up by her antibodies.

This hasn't been published- there isn't enough data. I've just had a few phone chats with the people in the ARU. It originally came up in conversation as my son had suspected chickenpox (actually it wasn't it was eczema herpeticum) followed a few months later by measles vaccine, followed a month later by stopping talking. We were just running through the possibilities and the chickenpox link came up. We decided it wasn't a factor in his case (in his case- the major factor was probably antibiotics).

If you're really worried you could ring the ARU- or email them- they're good at replying. But in your case I wouldn't worry- honestly!

lisaj · 05/05/2003 11:22

Claireandrich - dd had her MMR 10 days ago and I was told that she might have a reaction between 7-10 days when a rash might appear, which is not infectious. She has been a bit off colour for the past few days eg high temperature and runny nose, so don't know whether this is connected or not. I did a search on the internet and found some general info (sorry can't remember the website), which said there may be a bit of feverishness around this time, which seems to fit with dd's symptoms. I must admit I thought long and hard about giving it to dd, even though ds had it. I decided, like you, that as dd was at nursery I wanted her to have it rather than risk getting any of the diseases. Also like SofiaAmes said, dd didn't bat an eyelid when it was done - I didn't even realise the nurse had done it! Hope all goes well.

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