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New laws: I am shocked!

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Jux · 13/05/2009 09:54

In The Times today, Daniel Finkelstein says:

"MPs have long been aware that they are passing too many laws to be able to scrutinise them properly. They even passed a special Act to allow existing laws to be changed without having to go back before Parliament at all.

"The public is not aware of this."

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bumpsoon · 13/05/2009 15:23

Not in the least bit suprised ,i imagine they did to allow themselves more time with their interior designers

Floopy21 · 13/05/2009 15:43

Then Finkelstein should be corrected... 'the public ARE not aware of this.'

MadamAnt · 13/05/2009 15:50

Floopy - "public" is singular, unless a grammar law has been passed without my knowledge

AMumInScotland · 13/05/2009 15:50

Well, it would be too much to expect them to find time to actually check the laws that are being passed, wouldn't it? I mean, they've got to spend all their time finding moat-cleaners don't they?

hatwoman · 13/05/2009 15:55

it's well known that the current administrattion has passed shed loads more new legislation than (virtually/) any other govt before it. this article is from 2006.

hatwoman · 13/05/2009 15:55

/ was meant to be ?

Floopy21 · 13/05/2009 16:18

MAnt; Then I stand corrected

Jux · 13/05/2009 20:17

So they're not just morally bankrupt, they're lazy too!

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onagar · 13/05/2009 21:04

The public IS/ARE/WAS aware. This bit of it is anyway

Actually I can't recall the exact details, but I believe they set it up so they could pass a very vague law and a minister could fill in the details as and when he liked. Like a blank cheque really. They like blank cheques.

I know there is a difference between a minister with the right to make up laws and a feudal lord from the old days, but I can't place what it is now.

Catz · 13/05/2009 21:27

I guess he was talking about the Legislative and Regulatory Reform Act 2006 here

The final Act isn't quite as shocking as the original bill (which was very broad) but the restrictions are still worded vaguely enough that it's potentially draconian. Of course the intention is supposedly benign - allowing ministers to tidy up outdated legislation when there is no time to debate it on the floor of the House - and it replaces an existing power to make similar amendments in the REgulatory Reform Act 2001 so is not a new concept. The original Bill was truly awful and attracted widespread criticism at the time and widely known as the 'Abolition of Parliament Bill'. Still, the power it puts in the hands of the Government to legislate without Parliament is worrying.

Lilymaid · 13/05/2009 21:34

Yes, it was the Legislative and Regulatory Reform Act 2006. The Parliamentary scrutiny on the 3000+ Statutory Instruments passed each year isn't that great either, although there are committees of Parliament for that purpose.

cory · 13/05/2009 23:20

onagar, I'm fairly sure feudal lords couldn't claim expenses

at least not for porn films

Lilymaid · 14/05/2009 12:47

I take back what I wrote, perhaps Cambridge is Sleepy Hollow!

Lilymaid · 14/05/2009 12:49

aargh - wrong thread!

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