i know scummymummy, it's a terrible sign of the times that people like me feel they have to reduce those risks themselves instead of feeling free to just get on with life. and attitudes to risk do change - when i was a child hardly anyone wore seatbelts (let alone them even being fitted in the back) and though the pattern of injuries has changed in rta's, many lives have been saved. when i see children without their seatbelts on i do shudder - eg yesterday, a mum with 4 or 5 kids - she was on mobile phone - in big people carrier, they were literally jumping around the car, the only ones with seatbelts on were her & tiny baby in front seat - she was just about to drive onto dual carriageway