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Remembering Hillsborough

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Pinkjenny · 15/04/2009 09:13

Today is the 20th anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster. I know the grief is not confined to Liverpool, but as a scouser today, I want to share my memories of that day.

My dad is a staunch Liverpool FC supporter. He has held a home season ticket for as long as I can remember, but hardly ever goes to away games. I remember that day was unseasonably warm, I was 11 years old, and my dad was on his way to Sheffield for the game. I was with my mum and my grandparents, going to a market in Prescot as we always did on a Saturday.

We were in the car, and my grandad had the radio on. I remember hearing the reports on the radio, the commentator had total panic and hysteria in his voice, I don't really recall what was said, but I know the atmosphere in the car completely changed, and we headed for home, much earlier than usual. As far as we were aware, my dad was in the Leppings Lane terrace, and my mum must have been completely distraught. I know she held it together for me as I don't remember her weeping or wailing at all.

We got back to my grandparents house, and just as we were about to call the family and friends helpline, my dad rang. He had got a stand ticket about half an hour before the match, from a friend of a friend, and was safe and on his way home.

My mum and I went home, and I stayed outside, waiting for him to come home. When he finally pulled up, I asked him what had happened, and he merely shook his head and went inside the house. I remember he sat down, and didn't speak for about a week. It was awful, the tension was unbearable.

To this day, my dad has never spoken about what he saw, but in his more emotional moments, he has told me how he felt when he pulled up and saw me standing at the top of the road waiting for him to come home. He has never even looked at a copy of The Sun since.

One of my schoolfriends lost her dad, my dad lost one of his friends.

I just wanted to get all that out, and pay tribute to the families of the 96 people that weren't as lucky as we were on 15th April 1989.

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stillenacht · 15/04/2009 18:25

oh intheseshoes

UndertheBoredwalk · 15/04/2009 18:27

Your post made me cry Intheseshoes Am so glad that you all got out of it ok. Although having seen what you did, I'm not sure 'ok' is right.
I can totally understand why you don't talk about it irl, I havent met anyone who was there that does.
Such a horrific thing to go through for all that were there that day.
My thoughts are with you all.

twinmam · 15/04/2009 18:28

Thank you for sharing your story Intheseshoes. You have had me sobbing, it made it seem so real. I can't imagine the effect experiencing something like that must have had. I can understand you not wanting to talk about it in RL. I am so glad for you that you and your loved ones were safe and so very sorry that you were witness to and part of such terrible things.

special2shoes · 15/04/2009 18:41

InTheseShoes thank you for sharing

MARGOsBeenPlayingWithMyNooNoo · 15/04/2009 18:43

Thank god for that policeman Intheseshoes.

I don't really remember seeing it unfold on the TV. I can only remember feeling angry with our deputy head ranting about this being all down to the hooligans and yobs there.

stoppinattwo · 15/04/2009 18:43

I was in college the day following this tragedy..we lost a good friend at hillsborough, stephen o'neill.

I remember sitting in the canteen with my friends waiting, waiting for him to walk in through the doors and grin at us...I remember his girlfriend walking in, her face just creased up the moment she saw us, it was then we knew for sure he was one of the 96.

His best friend then came in close behind her...he was saying, wheres stephen, "where is he, cmon he should be in here by now"..... He looked at us and realised the he wasnt coming in. This lad had been supposed to go with ste to hillsborough but for some reason had called off ot the last minute...he sobbed that it was all his fault and that if he had gone he would have been able to save stephen.

I thought of him today, today you forget whether your a red or a blue in Liverpool, we are all football supporters.

Kathyis6incheshigh · 15/04/2009 19:09

That's so sad Stoppinattwo. His poor girlfriend.

popsycal · 15/04/2009 19:16

imy ex-boyf was there - i was with him all through uni. the disaster was around 3 and a half yeas before i met him. he was in the part where the people died and suffered PTSD because of it. Glad to say he is fine now but it took him years to deal with it.

this is al very clse tp my heart

Tinker · 15/04/2009 19:18

Oh, these stories are so sad. I remember very clearly the day unfolding on tv. Awful, feel very emotional about this. Just saw the list of names on tv and was reminded again at how young so many were - so many teenagers.

Homebird8 · 15/04/2009 19:32

I was a student at Liverpool and went back for the summer term that weekend. One of the lads from the church I attended was there and put into a persistent vegetative state. A student in halls with me didn't make it. The thing I remember most is that the spirit of the people in Liverpool was tangible. Every city has its problems but in Liverpool lives the biggest family in the world when the worst happens.

geordieminx · 15/04/2009 19:50

intheseshoes, thank you so much for sharing that with us, I cant imagine how difficult it must have been to share that with us, and how horrific it must have been for you to be there. God bless that policeman.

Stoppinattwo, so sorry for your loss.

tribpot · 15/04/2009 20:09

Thinking of all who lost loved ones that day. My memories are of being at home whilst my parents were out for a walk and taking a message from my step-dad (who was chief exec of a nearby Health Authority at the time) from the Chief Ambulance Officer, telling him that he had dispatched ambulances to help in Sheffield. I had no idea what on earth he was going on about so turned on the telly to see the match abandoned and people all over the pitch.

I don't remember any commentary although presumably there must have been some. I had no idea what to do; no mobile phone, couldn't hasten my step-dad home. Don't remember what happened the rest of the day except him being on the phone a lot when he got back. The Observer article mentions the ambulance services, I don't think I knew until now that they had gone and not been able to get into the grounds. How utterly dreadful and needless.

yerblurt · 15/04/2009 20:10

"By Pinkjenny on Wed 15-Apr-09 11:31:06
Kelvin MacKenzie still maintains that it is the truth."

... shows what a deluded twat he still is then! He probably still believes that fans pickpocketed and urinated on the dead as his comic tried to portray.

being from that part of the world it is a strangely personal thing to me.

I was 16 and watching the match on telly at my grans with my dad - and watching the whole thing uncover before my eyes, it was horrendous.

Although I didn't personally lose any friends or family, there was someone at my school who lost a cousin, he was completely messed up by it the poor lad.

I went to anfield along with many others to pay my respects and it was a completely surreal and very upsetting, but a strange feeling of community too.

The Scum 'news'paper quite rightly has never recovered sales in Liverpool and I don't know of anyone who buys the rag. In fact I do remember seeing someone read it in a pub, I was quite shocked actually, but not as shocked as the bloke reading the rag when someone walked up to him, snatched it out of his hand telling him not to read such a rag due to the f*cking lies it printed.

Watching saint stevey gerrard laaaaaaa on channel 4 news is very upsetting, he lost his 10year old cousin.

There is tremendous feeling in Liverpool because the truth has never ever come out about what happened.

There should be a public inquiry - as there are public enquiries for many other disasters.

The coroner (who still maintains to this day) says that everyone was dead at 3.15pm - despite two sworn statements.

The whole thing was a farce - 2 CCTV tapes went missing from a LOCKED room.

Why were ambulances held back from the ground?

Why did the police allow fans into the central pen rather than the side pens?

Why have the people responsible never ever been called to account?

That's all the families are asking for - the truth to come out so that there is accountability and transparency. The Taylor report was a whitewash quite frankly as it did not even consider any events after 3.15pm - this is a crucial event.

Some good has come out of it despite everything. Better grounds, removal of the pens, better policing and stewardship.

But the truth has never ever come out - that is all the grieving relatives are asking for.

Hulababy · 15/04/2009 20:11

I drove down Leppings Lane today, accidently as Sat Nav took me a funny way, and saw the flowers and memorias, gathered people and the ITN news crew. Brought back memories of seeing footage on TV at the time. Very sad.

So glad that football grounds have been made so much safer now.

cherryblossoms · 15/04/2009 20:14

Thank you for posting this Pinkjenny, and to all those who have posted their memories experiences.

Thoughts and love to all of you on here and all others who have been touched by this.

MuffinBaker · 15/04/2009 20:16

I remember it so clearly.

Such a sad and awful tragedy that could have been avoided.

Someone has to pay for their total lack of common sense.

compo · 15/04/2009 20:24

I remember it too, as a family of Forest fans , watching it unfold on TV I remember school on Monday, there was a fight on the bus btw 2 gilrs , 1 a Liverpool supporter and one a Forest fan , just over who was the most upset teenage girls being drama queens but I've felt sick all day RIP xx

geordieminx · 15/04/2009 20:25

yerblurt - what a well written post. Every word is true. Your username made me smile - my dp's username on another forum is blert - its such a scouse thing

compo · 15/04/2009 20:25

personally I think those culpable will never be able to live with their guilt and the constant reminders that they could have done something, anything

Hulababy · 15/04/2009 20:31

Rememebring the 96 victims

The victims:

John Alfred Anderson (62)
Colin Mark Ashcroft (19)
James Gary Aspinall (18)
Kester Roger Marcus Ball (16)
Gerard Bernard Patrick Baron (67)
Simon Bell (17)
Barry Sidney Bennett (26)
David John Benson (22)
David William Birtle (22)
Tony Bland (22)
Paul David Brady (21)
Andrew Mark Brookes (26)
Carl Brown (18)
David Steven Brown (25)
Henry Thomas Burke (47)
Peter Andrew Burkett (24)
Paul William Carlile (19)
Raymond Thomas Chapman (50)
Gary Christopher Church (19)
Joseph Clark (29)
Paul Clark (18)
Gary Collins (22)
Stephen Paul Copoc (20)
Tracey Elizabeth Cox (23)
James Philip Delaney (19)
Christopher Barry Devonside (18)
Christopher Edwards (29)
Vincent Michael Fitzsimmons (34)
Thomas Steven Fox (21)
Jon-Paul Gilhooley (10)
Barry Glover (27)
Ian Thomas Glover (20)
Derrick George Godwin (24)
Roy Harry Hamilton (34)
Philip Hammond (14)
Eric Hankin (33)
Gary Harrison (27)
Stephen Francis Harrison (31)
Peter Andrew Harrison (15)
David Hawley (39)
James Robert Hennessy (29)
Paul Anthony Hewitson (26)
Carl Darren Hewitt (17)
Nicholas Michael Hewitt (16)
Sarah Louise Hicks (19)
Victoria Jane Hicks (15)
Gordon Rodney Horn (20)
Arthur Horrocks (41)
Thomas Howard (39)
Thomas Anthony Howard (14)
Eric George Hughes (42)
Alan Johnston (29)
Christine Anne Jones (27)
Gary Philip Jones (18)
Richard Jones (25)
Nicholas Peter Joynes (27)
Anthony Peter Kelly (29)
Michael David Kelly (38)
Carl David Lewis (18)
David William Mather (19)
Brian Christopher Mathews (38)
Francis Joseph McAllister (27)
John McBrien (18)
Marion Hazel McCabe (21)
Joseph Daniel McCarthy (21)
Peter McDonnell (21)
Alan McGlone (28)
Keith McGrath (17)
Paul Brian Murray (14)
Lee Nicol (14)
Stephen Francis O'Neill (17)
Jonathon Owens (18)
William Roy Pemberton (23)
Carl William Rimmer (21)
David George Rimmer (38)
Graham John Roberts (24)
Steven Joseph Robinson (17)
Henry Charles Rogers (17)
Colin Andrew Hugh William Sefton (23)
Inger Shah (38)
Paula Ann Smith (26)
Adam Edward Spearritt (14)
Philip John Steele (15)
David Leonard Thomas (23)
Patrik John Thompson (35)
Peter Reuben Thompson (30)
Stuart Paul William Thompson (17)
Peter Francis Tootle (21)
Christopher James Traynor (26)
Martin Kevin Traynor (16)
Kevin Tyrrell (15)
Colin Wafer (19)
Ian David Whelan (19)
Martin Kenneth Wild (29)
Kevin Daniel Williams (15)
Graham John Wright (17)

edam · 15/04/2009 20:42

The list of names is gut-wrenching. Many of them were so young (well, everyone killed that day went before their time, but children, for heaven's sake). And the ones from the same families... Must be unbearable for the relatives and friends.

TheMolesMother · 15/04/2009 20:47

The Times tracked down David Duckenfield, the then Chief Superintendent who was in charge of the policing of Hillsborough and he refused to speak to them:

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article6093920.ece

No surprise really. Is there anything he could say?

MM

andirobo · 15/04/2009 20:53

Homebird8 - I too was a student at Liverpool Uni (I am 2 years older than you) and my boyfriend at the time had gone to the match with his Dad and older brother, and I remember watching it all on the tv. We didnt usually watch footie on the tv in our house (more usually motor racing) but my Dad watched the big games. I remember watching it all unfold but not being able to move away from the tv despite the horrific scenes. I remember it was hours later before we got a phone call from him to say they were ok.

I too have been silently weeping here reading this thread, and watching the programmes on TV. I listened to the service on the local radio station (I stil live in Scouseland) while out on site today - it is all so incredibly sad.

compo · 15/04/2009 20:56

the thing is he's right at the end of that article that the consequences will haunt him to his grave

yerblurt · 15/04/2009 21:42

David Dukenfiled is a cunt of the highest order and may his corrupt soul rot in hell.

... retired on medical grounds on his full pension? He should be strung up.

That's all.